Mel Stride, the secretary of state for work and pensions set out his vision for the future of claimants in a speech to the Conservative Party conference today.  It was a speech which some will regard as filled with optimism and others will hear as laden with threats. 

When combined with Chancellor’s Jeremy Hunt’s reference to claimants placed in the LCWRA group as “100,000 people [who] are leaving the labour market every year for a life on benefits”, the threat seems loud and clear.

Update 04.10.23 :  prime minister Rishi Sunak has also now launched an attack on claimants in the LCWRA group, see below.

Stride spoke of making far more demands on claimants at risk of long-term unemployment, with more frequent work-focused requirements and firm sanctions.

He praised the ‘heroes’ who work in Jobcentres but said they need private sector style incentives to get more people into work.

He talked about the pain it causes him personally to think of sick and disabled people being denied the opportunity to work.

He explained that there is to be reform of sickness and disability benefits assessments and a revolution in the support provided to move more disabled claimants into work.

Finally, he spoke of human beings freed to be the best they can be by being supported back into work.

Firm sanctions and private sector style bonuses

Stride told the conference that government faces new challenges:

Just as the world of work is rapidly changing, so the ways in which we help people into work must change too.

 So we are trialling a far more demanding approach with claimants at particular risk of becoming long-term unemployed.

 This includes far more frequent work-focused requirements, with firm sanctions for those who fail to fulfil their commitments, and more support for those who need it.

 And we’ve been testing new incentive schemes for our best performing Job Centre teams. Recognising and rewarding those heroes who go above and beyond to improve the lives of others.

 The sort of approach that is common practice in successful parts of the private sector. And if its good enough for the private sector then it should be good enough for the public sector too.

Assessment reform and revolutionary support

He went on to talk about “the number of people who are inactive due to ill health or disability” and underlined the government’s intention to reform sickness and disability benefits assessments:

Having a job isn’t just good for your finances – it’s good for your mental and physical wellbeing too.

 And it pains me to think there are so many people being left on benefits who want to work and who could be thriving in work. It’s a waste of human potential . . .

So we are reforming our sickness and disability benefit assessments for the first time in over a decade, to take account of the modern workplace.

 That is going hand-in-hand with a revolution in the employment support we’re providing for people with health problems and disabilities.

 That’s why at the last Budget we unveiled £2 billion of investment, including a game-changing new programme, Universal Support, which will place people into work, with a personal adviser providing wraparound support for up to a year while they find their feet.

 We know it’s an approach that works because we have already been delivering it, including a trailblazing scheme in the West Midlands, Thrive Into Work, led by their excellent Conservative Mayor, Andy Street.

 I have seen first-hand how they are integrating healthcare and employment support.

 And as we roll out Universal Support, we will be changing lives right across the country, so whatever your situation, if you can work you will be supported to do so.

 And if you are on benefits and able to work, you will be expected to do so.

Human beings made free by work

Stride concluded with what he clearly considered to be a rousing vision of a future in which many more sick and disabled claimants will be given the gift of work:

Low unemployment. Improving economic activity. Rising employment.

 These achievements don’t happen by accident. They result from the endeavours of millions of people right up and down our country and from the tireless work of those at DWP day in day out, who make the gift of work a reality for thousands of men and women.

 And that, Conference, is what we will continue to do.

 For every person supported back into work, there’s a human being who is better off.

 A human being freed to be the best that they can be.

 A society made alive and whole.

 That is truly something to inspire.

 Conference, we are getting Britain working.

 Life on benefits

Earlier in the day, Chancellor Jeremy Hunt was much more blunt in his disapproval of claimants who, rather than working, choose “a life on benefits” by being assessed by the DWP as too ill or disabled to be able to manage even work-related activities.

He told the conference:

I’m proud to live in a country where, as Churchill said, there’s a ladder everyone can climb but also a safety net below which no one falls.

 That safety net is paid from tax. And that social contract depends on fairness to those in work alongside compassion to those who are not.

 That means work must pay… and we’re making sure it does. From last year, for the first time ever, you can earn £1,000 a month without paying a penny of tax or national insurance.

 But despite that even when companies are struggling to find of workers, around 100,000 people are leaving the labour market every year for a life on benefits.

 Mel Stride gets this 100% which is why he’s replacing the Work Capability Assessment.

 And we’re going to look at the way the sanctions regime works. It isn’t fair that someone who refuses to look seriously for a job gets the same as someone trying their best.

Are people three times sicker today?

Finally, in his own speech to conference on Wednesday, Rishi Sunak cast doubt on whether claimants in the LCWRA group really are unable to work:

We must end the national scandal… 

…where our benefits system declares that more than two million people of working age are incapable of actually doing any. 

That’s not Conservative, that’s not compassionate—that must change.  

In 2011, one in five of those doing a work capability assessment were deemed unfit to work. 

But the latest figure now stands at 65 per cent. 

Are people three times sicker today than they were a decade ago? 

No, of course not. 

It’s not good for our economy… 

…it is not fair on taxpayers who have to pick up the bill… 

…and it’s a tragedy for those two million people being written off. 

I refuse to accept this and that is why we are going to change the rules so that those who can work, do work. 

It's not too late to respond

For anyone who doubted that the Conservatives were serious about slashing the work capability assessment to make it much harder to be found to have LCWRA, these speeches should provide absolute certainty.

And, until 30 October, it’s not too late to tell them what you think of their plans by taking part in the consultation.

You can also visit our WCA Changes Latest News page for updates on what's happening to the WCA.

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    jlee · 7 months ago
    I am very worried by this situation,,,and want long term pip.esa award asap,,,but that cud always change in the future...
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    frmarcus · 7 months ago
    There's much crit here about Tories - which may be justified - but before people 'go off on one' about them they should enquire of the elephant in the room (Lab) about its benefit policy.  My suspicion is it's little different and that silence may be taken to mean they agree with Hunt/Stride (but won't say so for obv reason).  Thus party political criticism may be misplaced given absence of a competing, less threatening policy.
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      wibblum · 7 months ago
      @frmarcus
      Party political criticism is absolutely justified, when that party's political policy is based upon an ideology that serves vested interests above basic humanity in the guise of 'aspiration', which it so very clearly does with the tories (and has always done within living memory).

      Don't worry though, criticism shall be doled out to New New Labour with equal venom, should they become the next government and do little (or indeed nothing) to alleviate the situation.

      The basic problem at the moment is that no one really knows what the political party calling itself 'Labour' actually does currently stand for, and that seemingly includes the party itself.


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    anmor47 · 7 months ago
    Conservatives reading scripted speeches for their supporters. Usual stuff. All propaganda. They want to save money for Tax cuts so they can stay in power forever. But their time is running out whatever they say. How the dust settles on these ideas is hard to predict. If more money is needed to 'help' people work then the plan may be scrapped (just like HS2). This is how things are done.
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    The dogmother · 7 months ago
    Terrified is the flavour of the day! 
    Daily all day long. Afraid of the postman delivering a letter. Afraid of what comes next for the sick,disabled, weak,Will they,Won't they. My life feels like its not my own, and I know many others feel the same.I want to give my house of 32 years up,buy a dirt cheap caravan and generator, find someone willing to let me park it on their land (permanently) and live off my very meagre savings . Concentrate on my life long and decades long, 8 different conditions and recently added new health condition and get my MH under some kind of control away from the constant bombardment of these radical changes in the benefits system bringing me literally to my knees. That idea might sound off or weird to some but it would be my only way out,and my saviour, except for the permanent solution I wouldn't give then the satisfaction of driving me to. I'm triggered enough.
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      The dogmother · 7 months ago
      @T Yes having others on here who understand is the difference than feeling alone. My MH problems arose rom a variety of sources, that I'd rather not go into. My physical ones there after.My sister and mum do carer for me,unpaid,I simply can't deal with people face to face, I die inside a bit more each time informed to.I cant even answer my front door. My mum and sister come through the back door using a key. I bother with no one outside my mum ,that one sister who helps and occasionally my elderly dad.The thought of having to converse with strangers makes me chilled to my core. Panic rises. Hospital apts are a nightmare. 
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      T · 7 months ago
      @The dogmother They will never understand just how complex mental health is. Usually people with mental health tend to have multiple mental health problems and a simple disruption to one can very easily cause  all to be made worse.  There is no job at all that doesn't require some sort of interaction with people, if there is the. Give these to mothers who are actually looking for flexible working from home hours or to people who are actually on universal credit in the job seekers part. It's all lies. I'd love them to tell me how a person who is completely house bound due to acrophobia, has psychosis and social anxiety, (there's more but the list goes on a lot )can not speak to anyone on phone or in person, can not be near people apart from my closest people like parents and sister, , love for them to say what job I can do, who would I even interact with jobcentre things let alone do a interview for job.... 
       thank god for this website,, I don't feel as alone when reading what others say on here. 
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      The dogmother · 7 months ago
      @T I hear that. I don't ever go out at night, nor do I have People in my home, I don't drink or smoke, I don't go to party's or anything that involves having others in close proximity. I can't have anyone stand behind me,so no busses, I don't go out alone during the day ,and when I do its once a fortnight with my mother, god love her whose 77. My sister got remarried two weeks ago.  Stayed at home.
      My MH is rock bottom. My physical health problems ramp up when my MH gets affected.I can't understand how they can be so cruel to us. I could not live with myself if I deliberately harmed another being. I understand the pain of MH struggles. My panic attacks anxiety and depression give me thoughts I'd rather not have. I just want peace to 'Be' with my pooch. We don't want to live a high life, we just want recognised as being too unwell to work. I don't even walk my dog,my adult nephew does it for me between his shifts at work and looking after his two girls.Something I'd love to do. Nature really helps with our wellbeing, being forced against our will to constantly change benefits to suit then fight the outcome is not.
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      T · 7 months ago
      @The dogmother I feel the exact same way. We live a torture of a existence as it is and they just seem to always take away from us any tiny amount of hope and joy. How can we ever begin to try to heal a little when we constantly have the worry on our minds from what next these monsters will do to us. Never have I ever had as little hope for the future than I do now.  25 years I've been ill with mental health and I try my best to improve but this government keep smacking me back to the floor. I need a mind that can relax and be at peace to begin to be in a place that can be fragile but better overall but this government keep destroying me every time I try to fix myself.   I do not want to work it's true,,, because I can not talk to people, on phone or in-person, I can't leave house or be around anyone only a very few people who truly know me . All I want is just to be left alone in the bubble I try to create and stop bursting. How dare these monsters think they know what is best for us. The worst part is we can't even have much hope if labour get in either. 
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      The dogmother · 7 months ago
      @M shirker I think it's the answer. My only problem is finding somewhere to pitch up ,who'd allow it ongoing.
      I can't keep up with all this hurtful degrading process of bumping us off benefits and into jobs we are clearly incapable of handling. I don't even own my home it's council ,so I could walk away easily. 
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    tintack · 7 months ago
    As with other recent announcements, whether any of this ever happens will probably come down to what Labour plans to do, given the high likelihood of them winning the next election. 

    The legislation to scrap the WCA completely won't be passed before the election. The legislation to make it much harder to pass before it's eventually scrapped might go through before the election, but even if it does it won't actually come into force until some time in 2025, i.e. after the election. That means a newly elected Labour government would have the chance to put a stop to the changes before they get off the ground - if that's what Labour wants to do.

    Unfortunately we're not likely to learn much about Labour's plans until the election campaign, perhaps not even until they're in power, given their reluctance to say anything about anything. That reticence is understandable to some extent, given that they're up against a Tory press which has become Trumpian and radicalised, much like the Tory party itself, but it doesn't do much for our peace of mind. 

    I share the scepticism on here about Starmer's Labour, especially with the likes of Reeves and Cooper in the shadow cabinet, but we still have a better chance of something that's at least not completely terrible with them than we do with the Tories, who we now know for certain will screw us over. There is no shortage of right wing ghouls in the PLP, but there is also still a bloc of left-wing MPs (despite the efforts of Starmer and his allies) who would not go along with this sort of nonsense and would hopefully have influence on a Labour government. That's why I'm hoping for a Labour government but with a small enough majority to give the left some clout. A Labour government with a landslide majority would allow the leadership to do what it likes, and that rarely ends well.
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      tintack · 7 months ago
      @Jess H God knows I'm no fan of Kendall or the Labour right in general, but yes, she seems to be better than the likes of IDS and Coffey. Though admittedly that is one hell of a low bar. At this point I'd settle for anyone who isn't a dyed in the wool psychopath. That shouldn't be too much to ask, but it's not a bar that will ever be cleared by the current rabble of toxic inadequates and chancers. 
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      tintack · 7 months ago
      @JC
      It's certainly true that if the descriptor changes pass before the election then Labour would have to take action to stop them happening once in office.  That said, as I understand it, the descriptor changes have a chance of passing before the election because they only need amendments to be made to existing legislation, rather than new legislation (as opposed to the plan to scrap the WCA completely, which requires new legislation). If that makes them easier to pass, then it should - at least in theory - make them easier to reverse as well. 

      It really comes down to political will - when governments have the political will to stop something they do so. If they're not bothered, they let it pass. Short of being given more details about Labour's plans prior to the election we'll have to see what they do if, as seems likely, they win the election. I agree it would be good to get some clarity on their position at their conference, but I doubt we will - I'm expecting them to continue their current approach of saying as little as possible about anything.
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      JC · 7 months ago
      @tintack The concern of course is if they pass legislation before the election, and labor doesn't take prompt action, it will go ahead anyway. There's also no guarantee labor will reverse the changes entirely. I hope the upcoming Labor conference gives more insight into their position on this.    
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      The dogmother · 7 months ago
      @tintack Thank you for that too.
      You are very articulate at explaining way better than I could.
      It def makes sense what you say. Any hope no matter how small is still hope indeed. 

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      Jess H · 7 months ago
      @tintack The only thing that gives me a glimmer of hope is that Liz Kendall's voting record on welfare is only slightly better (in that she has supported increasing welfare spending as opposed to not) than all the Tory's who've presided over W&P for the last 13 years. 
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    Angel · 7 months ago
    I am not well enough physically or mentally 
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    Angel · 7 months ago
    They are basically telling me to end it with their speech of bully and hatred. Seems maybe they won
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      The dogmother · 7 months ago
      @Am I am the same,so very afraid. I know I'm not up to yet another fight. 
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      Am · 7 months ago
      @Angel I feel much the same Angel, I have to just keep telling myself it's not happening today. It doesn't make it ok to make us feel like we're on borrowed time tho, it's hard to plan for the future when you don't have disabilities but when you do it can be soul destroying seeing a bleakness laid out before you. I fear many lives may be lost before they even get around to making the changes. Labour simply must say something, otherwise how can we have hope?
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    wibblum · 7 months ago
    Personally speaking, knowing that my continued existence as 'an unproductive work unit' and 'a burden on the state' is an annoyance and an inconvenience to the kind of worthless, money-grubbing, morally-corrupt, compassionless, bigoted, hypocritical, braying imbecile that makes up the membership of the modern tory party is just the incentive I need to keep on living, whatever they throw at me.

    You should never be made to feel shame or guilt for needing help, in sickness or in health. The shame is on THEM, not on us.
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    Elizabeth Vidler · 7 months ago
    I have lost all hope they clearly won't be satisfied until they have removed our rights to claim anything, and all to make up for their appalling waste of money.  I have written my response to the address provided and that amongst other things is what I have said.  But in all in all I have given up, wipe us out you will be happy then. And to be honest I have had enough.
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    welshval · 7 months ago
    Just a thought-wonder if they will consider shutting sites like this down? They are bound to be aware of us and probably see Benefits and work as assisting us scroungers to play the system when we  make this" lifestyle " choice of a" luxurious" life on benefits
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      wibblum · 7 months ago
      @welshval They're certainly aware of the site - I remember a few years ago when they tried to whip up a media backlash about it.
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    wibblum · 7 months ago
    "Arbeit Macht Frei!"
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    JC · 7 months ago
    Remember folks, the Equality Act 2010 prevents the DWP from sanctioning you if your non-compliance is the result of your disability.

    Want you to come into the job center, but you're having a lot of anxiety? Can't sanction you.

    Want you to attend a job fair, but you're suffering a bout of chronic fatigue? Can't sanction you.

    Also remember, disability as defined under the Equality Act is far more broad than the WCA descriptors.

    Please don't let them put you in a situation that could make your health condition worse.




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      Sarah · 7 months ago
      @JC Yes your right 👍👏👏
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      Chocolady · 7 months ago
      @JC Is that right?  You sure they dont have some get out clause as the law is often quite flexible
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      The dogmother · 7 months ago
      @JC I did not know this. Thank you. 
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      M shirker · 7 months ago
      @JC @JC thanks i will remember that I know things looking bleak at the moment for everyone but let’s just see what happens with labour I’m only at 46 for now I have to fight on I’m no where near pension age if I have to work part time I will or work from home I will do 

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      JC · 7 months ago
      @M shirker Absolutely! If it's caused by your disability or health condition, they can't legally apply a sanction. It's classed as discrimination if they do.
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    M shirker · 7 months ago
    Now they calling them “heroes”at the job centre I will remember that next time I’m at the local food bank 
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    Am · 7 months ago
    Standard Tory fare, don't look at the man behind the curtain (non doms, tax evasion, billions stolen by fake covid companie mates, corporate handouts, tax relief for the rich etc etc). Starmer needs to step up to stop some of us from losing all hope. Will he though...
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      frmarcus · 7 months ago
      @lesley Lesley: everyone who is or will draw a State Pension is a ''benefit claimant', for it is, technically and actually a contributory state benefit, like other contributory benefits.  Some are unaware of this, thinking SP is different or separate from 'benefits'.  Indeed, it's possible that SP in future could be means-tested (as it once was).

      I hope your health and wellbeing improve and the op's a success. 
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      The dogmother · 7 months ago
      @lesley Horrible comment from your so called friend. At 75 you have deserved the right to take it easy. 
      Esp as you are so unwell. That is just not on speaking to to n that way. I don't know a single 70something still in employment, voluntary or otherwise.
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      lesley · 7 months ago
      @Am
      I am 75, will be 76 in December.  Struggling with mental health, had two husbands die, my daughter killed herself in 2001, am struggling with mobility. Awaiting a serious ankle operation, bone fusion, it has been cancelled twice.  In constant pain, even had a "friend" accuse me of being a sponger and say If I was not claiming benefit he would not have to pay so much rent on his flat. Told me to go and do something worth while like volunteering.  So it never ends this sort of rhetoric even when you are past it.
      I find it a full time job just looking after myself.
      It really is depressing this constant attack on benefit claimants. Do they not think that if we were well we would all be out there doing some amazing job...... "I could have been a brain surgeon" type of thing.
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