A revised document issued by the DWP today confirms that current personal independence payment (PIP) claimants will be covered by the Timms review.  It also states that PIP spending cannot exceed current projections, whatever changes are made.

The Timms review terms of reference have been updated and reissued today, removing all reference to the PIP 4 point system which Labour tried to impose before backing down in the face of a backbench revolt.

However, a number of other changes have been quietly made to the document.

Probably the most important is the addition of a single bullet point to the ‘Principles’ section, which now states:

“the Review will consider how recommendations might be applied to reassessments for people already claiming PIP to ensure it is fair and fit for both new and existing claimants”

The original document made no reference to current claimants, leading some commentators to suggest that the Timms review would only affect new claimants.

However, this additional clause makes it clear that the review will at least consider how any proposed changes could apply to existing claimants when their award is reassessed, though it leaves open the possibility that ultimately some changes  may only apply to new claims.

In addition, a change has been made to another bullet point in the same section.  This originally read:

“the purpose of the Review is to ensure that PIP is fair and fit for the future rather than to generate proposals for further savings.”

However, an additional sentence has now been added stating:

“However, the sustainability of the system is an important consideration and so the Review will operate within the OBR’s projections for future PIP expenditure, to ensure it is there to support generations to come”

In other words, whilst cuts to future PIP spending are not being ruled out, under no circumstances will there be an increase in overall PIP spending.

The steering committee will need to push hard to ensure there is no reduction in projected PIP spending under any new plans.

It will, however, be vital that there is an independent assessment of the cost of any proposed changes, rather than leaving the DWP to come up with their own projections which may deliberately exaggerate how much changes will cost.

And clearly, the concern now is that even if the final bill remains the same, any changes will mean there will be winners and losers amongst individual claimants.

You can download the revised terms of reference here.

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    · 4 days ago
    The Timms review is just a cover for PIP cuts. Instead of announcing multiple cuts all at once a piecemeal approach designed to go under that radar are being prepared.
    According to an article in The Canary just 12 disabled people are involved. It's a shame disabled organisations are going along with it and even claiming to have influenced it positively. Timms and Labour are no friends of disabled people much to their shame.
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    · 4 days ago
    As far as the Timms Review goes when they say they will stay within the current spending forecasts. The current OBR/Treasury forecasts they want to stay within already have more cuts than have currently been done. As the forecasts include savings that would have been made if the Tories had implemented the cuts they announced when they were in government. Labour at the general election stated they would not do the cuts the Tories announced but would make the same amount of cuts to welfare spending by different means.

    Also stay within does means not spending more. It does not rule out spending less, making larger cuts.

    As far as the government choosing to have no pathways to work white paper. That is due to the government believing announcing the cuts all at once and trying to pass most of them in a single bill would be difficult. While announcing them one at a time and getting parliament to agree to them one at time would be easier. Pat McFadden was appointed DWP minister because he is seen as a political fixer a man who can get things done. He was not appointed due to knowing anything about the DWP or to abandon the planed cuts. He was appointed to corral Labour MPs and get the cuts through parliament.  
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      · 3 days ago
      @Dez I am even more cynical I think the media is deliberately falsely portraying Labour as having failed to make welfare cuts and having abandoned welfare cuts. So when in the budget it is announced UC standard allowance is going up by more than inflation and taxes are going up, they can paint Labour as being for the shirkers not the workers.
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      · 4 days ago
      @John Agreed with all of this. I'm annoyed at how the media is presenting this as Labour "shelving" the plans and people believing it when we still have the Timms review and the whole replacing the WCA with a new PIP assessment proposal to worry about amongst everything else planned out in the Green Paper.

      The only reason certain outlets are reporting the plans are being "shelved" is because disabled individuals and organisations are getting involved in the Timms review vs. the usual right wing think tanks who think we shouldn't get anything and they're annoyed that the review is being "reeled in" by people in our camp before it's even started. 

      It's almost like disabled people and disability organisations should be consulted on how disabled people should be treated fairly and not rich right wing politicians and their apologists. Such a travesty. Funny how there's been no such complaints when it comes to Lee Anderson and him using his experience with Citizens Advice to villainise us.
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      · 4 days ago
      @Tim Who Dares Wins.
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      · 4 days ago
      @Anon I don't understand that one
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      · 4 days ago
      @Timothy Yes, this is headline news in the Telegraph 

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      · 4 days ago
      @Neil Cook It'd calm me down as well. I've retired but if I lost my PiP I'd be housebound.
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      · 4 days ago
      @Timothy The fact that one person complaining in the comments is ratting out somebody who attends the same church as them. So much for “love thy neighbour!”. lol
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    · 4 days ago
    https://www.thecanary.co/uk/analysis/2025/10/30/dwp-pathways-to-work/

    Almost 50k responses 

    To put that into perspective when comparing to the last 2 previous consultations run by the dwp - the pip consultation last year got about 16k responses and the previous to that wca consultation (in 2023) got less than 2k responses 

    No wonder the gov is trying to sneak the results quietly towards the direction of a bin (and many disabled didn’t bother responding to this most recent consultation as it was a total sham and a consultation in name only - if dwp under Labour had engaged how they legally should of I think the number of responses would of been bigger still)
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    · 4 days ago
    This won't fly with backbenchers. As barbaric as the 4 point rule was, it wasn't throwing out the whole assessment and making it harder to score points like Timms is obviously planning. They'll most likely be forced to guarantee protection for existing claims yet again.

    My guess is they're probably hoping they'll be able to depend on Conservative support in the event of another rebellion so whatever they've got planned at the end of this review is already not looking pretty if they no longer care about keeping this particular pledge to backbenchers. I also suspect the rumblings of breaking the promise to not raise taxes in the upcoming Budget has something to do with this as well.

    "Oh, yes, we're raising taxes! But don't worry, we're going to cut disability benefits next year and that'll fix the economy and we can reduce taxes then - pinky swear!"

    And people will fall for it, naturally.
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      · 3 days ago
      @John The Rt Hon Marie Tidball in Sheffield seems to be one of them?
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      · 4 days ago
      @Anon I expect enough Labour MPs will back PIP changes recommend by the Timms review. They have a rose tinted view of Timms and his review. And they think the review makes cuts easier to justify to their voters.

      I cannot see Starmer passing PIP reform on Tory votes. I think doing so would make his position as Labour leader untenable. 
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    · 4 days ago
    They could be looking for a way to implement the principle of the 4 point rule - by demanding higher overall points score, for example, to qualify for various elements. Very sly, to maintain the possibility for existing claimants' awards to be downgraded on reassessment, and typical of Timms's doublespeak, like when he wouldn't commit before to protecting existing claimants/pensioners.

    We might have to rally another back bench rebellion.
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      · 2 days ago
      @John Thank you John i hope what you say is 💯 true. What happens of you are on light touch and some medications are reduced albeit due to side effects, do you think this would trigger an assessment? 
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      · 3 days ago
      @keepingitreal PIP already operates more than one review system.

      For PIP awards with a end date claimants have to reapply for PIP when their award is coming to it's end. The reassessment for them is the same as for a new claim.

      For ongoing/indefinite PIP awards there is no end date they have a light touch review every 10 years. People with these awards are expected to be eligible for life. The main purpose of the light touch review is to check they are still alive and the DWP contact details for them are upto date. A light touch review is basically have your health conditions changed, have your care needs changed, have your mobility needs changed. If the claimant ticks no change the light touch review gets rubber stamped and thats it for another 10 years. There is no reassment.

      Timm's has repeatedly stated the above distinction would remain. That pensioners as they are almost all on ongoing/indefinite awards will be unaffected. As the are not routinely reassed, just light touch reviewed.

      The DWP also already has multiple disability assessment systems. DLA for those aged under 16, and for legacy DLA claimants who were on DLA when they reached state pension age. PIP for those aged 16 or over and those pensioners who were on PIP when they reached state pension age. Attendance Allowance for those who started a claim after reaching state pension age. Then there are the less common benefits for those whose disability was due to being in the armed forces or due to a industrial injury. 
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      · 4 days ago
      @John Of course he's given the impression of making a distinction, but that's just so he doesn't have to commit, and because he hasn't worked out yet how, or whether, to operate more than one review process.
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      · 4 days ago
      @rookie Timms has always made a distinction between light touch reviews (which are not reassments) and actual reassments. Those with ongoing/indefinite awards which are light touch reviewed every 10 should still be exempt. That includes almost all pensioners as when people reach state pension age their PIP award is changed to a ongoing/indefinite award unless their medical condition is expected to get better only temporary.

      Timms has also previously said he would do something in regards to those with ongoing/indefinite awards who report their health condition has got worse. As that can trigger a reassessment. So they would be protected. 
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