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8 years 2 months ago #152104 by Orangeblossom
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Might be helpful to put the previous report in, (a copy) ?
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8 years 2 months ago - 8 years 2 months ago #152115 by bro58
Hi s,
If you cannot walk 50 metres aided or unaided nor can you self propel a manual wheelchair unaided the same distance repeatedly reliably and safely for the majority of the time (i.e. >50% of the time) or on the majority of occasions that you attempt to do so, that should place you into The SG under Activity 1, Descriptor 1. of : The Functional Support Group (SG) (LCWRA) Schedule 3 Activities/Descriptors
"Activity.
1. Mobilising unaided by another person with or without a walking stick, manual wheelchair or other aid if such aid is normally or could reasonably be worn or used.
Descriptor.
1 Cannot either:
(a) mobilise more than 50 metres on level ground without stopping in order to avoid significant discomfort or exhaustion; or
(b) repeatedly mobilise 50 metres within a reasonable timescale because of significant discomfort or exhaustion."
In carrying out an Activity, you should only be classed as being able to do so if you can perform the Activity without suffering sever pain, discomfort, fatigue or breathlessness, if you can't do so without suffering any of those, you should be classed as not being able to carry the Activity out at all and you are perfectly within your rights to answer "No" !!
It is only the distance that you can walk or self propel a manual wheelchair unaided that is counted.
Any distance that you can Mobilise in an electric/power scooter/wheelchair should not be taken into account at all !!
You would of course have to explain how and why your limitations prevent you from carrying out The Mobilising Activity.
bro58
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spasm wrote: As I have regular Absences 3-4 a week and I cannot use a manual wheelchair dew to mucle spasms, I have to use a eletric wheel chair at all times would this put me in the support group?
Spasm
Hi s,
If you cannot walk 50 metres aided or unaided nor can you self propel a manual wheelchair unaided the same distance repeatedly reliably and safely for the majority of the time (i.e. >50% of the time) or on the majority of occasions that you attempt to do so, that should place you into The SG under Activity 1, Descriptor 1. of : The Functional Support Group (SG) (LCWRA) Schedule 3 Activities/Descriptors
"Activity.
1. Mobilising unaided by another person with or without a walking stick, manual wheelchair or other aid if such aid is normally or could reasonably be worn or used.
Descriptor.
1 Cannot either:
(a) mobilise more than 50 metres on level ground without stopping in order to avoid significant discomfort or exhaustion; or
(b) repeatedly mobilise 50 metres within a reasonable timescale because of significant discomfort or exhaustion."
In carrying out an Activity, you should only be classed as being able to do so if you can perform the Activity without suffering sever pain, discomfort, fatigue or breathlessness, if you can't do so without suffering any of those, you should be classed as not being able to carry the Activity out at all and you are perfectly within your rights to answer "No" !!
It is only the distance that you can walk or self propel a manual wheelchair unaided that is counted.
Any distance that you can Mobilise in an electric/power scooter/wheelchair should not be taken into account at all !!
You would of course have to explain how and why your limitations prevent you from carrying out The Mobilising Activity.
bro58
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8 years 2 months ago #152271 by spasm
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Sorry, but yet another question, this is in regard to “Access to Work” and “PIP” as both could conflict with each other.
“Access to Work” question 2 - standing and sitting.
They do not include using a crutch as from say a wheel chair to a seat only assistance from another person.
“PIP” assessment, using a toilet.
I would have to say I need assistance to be able to use a standard toilet, but at home i have a toilet that has been raised - is on a platform, I also have 3 grab rails around the toilet to pull myself on and off the toilet.
So going back to question 2 of “Access to Work”, am I expected to use an aid, ie. Crutch, to get from one seat to another?
Yours Spasm
“Access to Work” question 2 - standing and sitting.
They do not include using a crutch as from say a wheel chair to a seat only assistance from another person.
“PIP” assessment, using a toilet.
I would have to say I need assistance to be able to use a standard toilet, but at home i have a toilet that has been raised - is on a platform, I also have 3 grab rails around the toilet to pull myself on and off the toilet.
So going back to question 2 of “Access to Work”, am I expected to use an aid, ie. Crutch, to get from one seat to another?
Yours Spasm
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8 years 2 months ago - 8 years 2 months ago #152293 by Gordon
I'm not entirely sure why you are referring to "access to work", I'll assume this is in regard your ESA claim!
The ESA Descriptor is explicit
You will only score the points if you require assistance from another person.
Gordon
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spasm wrote: Sorry, but yet another question, this is in regard to “Access to Work” and “PIP” as both could conflict with each other.
“Access to Work” question 2 - standing and sitting.
They do not include using a crutch as from say a wheel chair to a seat only assistance from another person.
“PIP” assessment, using a toilet.
I would have to say I need assistance to be able to use a standard toilet, but at home i have a toilet that has been raised - is on a platform, I also have 3 grab rails around the toilet to pull myself on and off the toilet.
So going back to question 2 of “Access to Work”, am I expected to use an aid, ie. Crutch, to get from one seat to another?
Yours Spasm
I'm not entirely sure why you are referring to "access to work", I'll assume this is in regard your ESA claim!
The ESA Descriptor is explicit
2. Standing and sitting.
(a) Cannot move between one seated position and another seated position located next to one another without receiving physical assistance from another person. 15 points
You will only score the points if you require assistance from another person.
Gordon
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8 years 2 months ago #152308 by spasm
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Thank you for getting back to me.
It is with the ESA claim, sorry for the confusion.
So just to clarify, if you could use a crutch to transfer from one seated position to another with out the assistance of another person you would score no points?
The fact that you do this using a crutch this would give you zero points
yours thank fully
Spasm
It is with the ESA claim, sorry for the confusion.
So just to clarify, if you could use a crutch to transfer from one seated position to another with out the assistance of another person you would score no points?
The fact that you do this using a crutch this would give you zero points
yours thank fully
Spasm
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8 years 2 months ago #152311 by Gordon
I can only repeat what I said in my previous post, the requirement is that you need assistance from another person, if you can achieve the move without this level of help, then you do not meet the criteria for the Descriptor and you won't score points.
Gordon
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spasm wrote: Thank you for getting back to me.
It is with the ESA claim, sorry for the confusion.
So just to clarify, if you could use a crutch to transfer from one seated position to another with out the assistance of another person you would score no points?
The fact that you do this using a crutch this would give you zero points
yours thank fully
Spasm
I can only repeat what I said in my previous post, the requirement is that you need assistance from another person, if you can achieve the move without this level of help, then you do not meet the criteria for the Descriptor and you won't score points.
Gordon
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