Therapy and Treatment

just had mine stopped! when do I get final payment?

I meant do they stop it dead on the day of the decision? Sorry, new to the forum. I am asking for a reconsideration. Very worried.

to monitor my condition. I have recurrent depressive disorder and post traumatic stress disorder. I am also an alcoholic - not currently drinking. Something I think went against me in my ATOS assessment and helped me lose my PIP. But the fact is I do spend 8 plus 8 hours per week travelling/attending AA meetings and in counselling by an alcohol and drugs counsellor. I have a sponsor who phones me each day and prompts me with daily living tasks. Others pick me up and take me to the meetings/prompt me to participate etc. Do you think this would count in the therapy/treatment section anybody? Thoughts on? Thanks.

I have Recurrent Depressive Disorder and Post Traumatic Stress. Also Hypothyroidism. I am also alcoholic. Not currently drinking - in remission for 4 months. Think this latter fact cost me my enhanced PIP. Now no PIP. 3 points from 15! I want to argue - amongst other points - that my 8 plus hours travelling and attendance at AA meetings and Drug and Alcohol Counselling is MY therapy and treatment for that particular illness. How wil that go down? Where do we stand generally with clinic appointments? Consultant meetings etc? Former social worker here. Previously all this time used to be factored in. Any advice and guidance would be appreciated. This is hard!

Thistlelass wrote: I meant do they stop it dead on the day of the decision? Sorry, new to the forum. I am asking for a reconsideration. Very worried.

Hi Tl,

Gordon has answered your query really !!

As PIP and DLA are both paid 4 weeks in arrears, then obviously as you are always paid for the previous 4 weeks entitlement, there would be payment due after the date of the decision.

You don't say whether this adverse PIP decision was as a result of being transferred from DLA.

If it was, your existing DLA award payment would continue until 4 weeks after the date of the new PIP decision, whatever that PIP decision may be.

See : This Post in our Spotlight Area at the top of The forum.

With regards to you requesting a Mandatory Reconsideration (MR) of the adverse PIP decision, the following generic advice may help :

You have one month from the date of the PIP Decision Notice letter to make a written request for a Mandatory Reconsideration (MR) of the PIP decision.

Sending Documents to the DWP.

You could also ring the PIP Helpline :

Telephone: 0345 850 3322
Textphone: 0345 601 6677
Monday to Friday, 8am to 6pm

To request a copy of The PA4 PIP Medical Report compiled by the PIP Assessor at your face to face and sent to The DWP PIP DM to be used when the DM came to their decision.

If you have any problems obtaining The PA4 with a verbal request, you can make a written request which should be done as a separate issue to any MR request :

You can do this using a SAR Form :

SAR Form Download

From this page :

DWP Data Protection Policy

Or you can make the request in the form of a letter, as long as you make it clear that you are making a formal SAR under The Data Protection Act 1998.

Address the envelope : FAO The Data Controller, at the Benefits Office dealing with your PIP.

Write DPA 1998 SAR in front, top, left corner of envelope.

Once received, they have 40 calendar days to comply.

You should not miss your one month deadline if The PA4 or any other supporting evidence that you may be awaiting has not arrived.

You can make comment that you have requested this and will submit further evidence if applicable when you receive it.

Once you have The PA4, you can then pose any counter arguments to the PIP Assessors recommendations.

e.g. If they are stating that you can carry out a particular PIP Activity, has it been taken into account that to be classed as being able to carry out a PIP Activity, you must be able to do so Reliably and Safely for The Majority of Days

If the Assessor has stated that they witnessed you Walking a set distance have they taken into account the above, the time it took you to do so, and any pain, discomfort and breathless, etc that you may have suffered whilst doing so ? etc, etc, etc !!

You should also concentrate on reiterating where and why you should have scored the extra points with respect to the applicable PIP Activities and the appropriate scoring PIP Descriptor for that Activity, whilst cross-referencing to any medical evidence that you have, or may have already provided which indicates that you should have.

You should be aware that when you request an MR, any current PIP Awards, Daily Living and/or Mobility, that you might have, can be increased, reduced or taken away altogether, as they will look at the whole PIP Awards afresh.

Obviously if you have no current PIP Award, there is no risk involved.

See : PIP MR/Appeals Guidance.

Disability Rights UK Factsheet - Appeals and Mandatory Reconsiderations.

Once you have gone through The MR Process, if you are still unsuccessful, you have one month from the date of The MR Decision Notice Letter to appeal directly to The Tribunal Service. (TS)

You should do this using one copy of The MR Notice letter (keep the othercopy) and the : SSCS 1 Form (Download Link)

All this is explained in our PIP Appeals Guidance

See also : PIP Self Test

PIP Points Scoring System

&

PIP Claims Guide. (2nd Link down the page)

You should Bookmark/Favourite this page in your Internet Browser now.

That way you can return to this topic easily to pose any further queries that you may have by replying to the topic.

See : This Topic also !

Thanks in anticipation of your future co-operation in keeping all your PIP related queries to this topic !

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