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7 years 1 month ago #209606 by norman21
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Could you advise me on where I stand if I don't take PIP review to appeal
I still got standard care on review ( so am grateful for that )
However problem is reviewer has basically cured me of many of my incurable illnesses and decided I am likely to recover from my widespread degenerative arthritis _ so another review next year
So MR failed despite medical evidence of conditions not disappearing
If i leave till next review would it make things worse next time as would it seem i am agreeing with
them ?
I know ideally I should appeal but have really bad mental health and scared of another nervous breakdown as know could cause another year of stress waiting and they are going to review in a yesr anyway
So in short _ does not fighting now mean i agree my illnesses have magically vanished or can I try and reconvince them again next review?
Thanks for any advice
I still got standard care on review ( so am grateful for that )
However problem is reviewer has basically cured me of many of my incurable illnesses and decided I am likely to recover from my widespread degenerative arthritis _ so another review next year
So MR failed despite medical evidence of conditions not disappearing
If i leave till next review would it make things worse next time as would it seem i am agreeing with
them ?
I know ideally I should appeal but have really bad mental health and scared of another nervous breakdown as know could cause another year of stress waiting and they are going to review in a yesr anyway
So in short _ does not fighting now mean i agree my illnesses have magically vanished or can I try and reconvince them again next review?
Thanks for any advice
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7 years 1 month ago #209653 by Gordon
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" post=209606]Could you advise me on where I stand if I don't take PIP review to appeal
I still got standard care on review ( so am grateful for that )
However problem is reviewer has basically cured me of many of my incurable illnesses and decided I am likely to recover from my widespread degenerative arthritis _ so another review next year
So MR failed despite medical evidence of conditions not disappearing
If i leave till next review would it make things worse next time as would it seem i am agreeing with
them ?
I know ideally I should appeal but have really bad mental health and scared of another nervous breakdown as know could cause another year of stress waiting and they are going to review in a yesr anyway
So in short _ does not fighting now mean i agree my illnesses have magically vanished or can I try and reconvince them again next review?
Thanks for any advice[/quote]
Can you reasonably see how you would score the extra points that you need for an increased award understanding that this is not about your conditions but the limitations that result from them?
Gordon
" post=209606]Could you advise me on where I stand if I don't take PIP review to appeal
I still got standard care on review ( so am grateful for that )
However problem is reviewer has basically cured me of many of my incurable illnesses and decided I am likely to recover from my widespread degenerative arthritis _ so another review next year
So MR failed despite medical evidence of conditions not disappearing
If i leave till next review would it make things worse next time as would it seem i am agreeing with
them ?
I know ideally I should appeal but have really bad mental health and scared of another nervous breakdown as know could cause another year of stress waiting and they are going to review in a yesr anyway
So in short _ does not fighting now mean i agree my illnesses have magically vanished or can I try and reconvince them again next review?
Thanks for any advice[/quote]
Can you reasonably see how you would score the extra points that you need for an increased award understanding that this is not about your conditions but the limitations that result from them?
Gordon
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7 years 1 month ago #209672 by norman21
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_ I have current medical evidence from gp and specialists which support areas where i lost points on review so yes i am confident that I can prove certain things beyond a doubt and they ignored gp written support in MR
I had 11 points before down to 8 but gained points in new areas and lost previous points even though pretty solid evidence in areas i lost them, but was surprised at where they gave me new points for as these were areas where i felt i had less evidence for?
So i guess if went to appeal _ the areas i feel pretty solid on i am sure would hold up but where they awarded points for things i felt they wouldn't give me i feel less unsure on if appeal looked at everything as not much medical evidence in these bits !
which is why feel unsure about pursing it
I guess i just wanted to make sure my not taking to appeal would not affect me negatively in a review next year as I dont agree my conditions have disappeared and I plan on getting as much continued evidence in preparation for the next round of PIP battle as review would probably happen at same time as a tribunal
I just find it bizarre that a review seems to take zero notice of previous award and comes to seemingly random assessment in comparison to what they did before and although still got an award the make up of points is so different to before as though they have seen a completely different person and they ignored medical evidence giving me points instead for things the medical evidence didnt explicitly cover !
I guess trying to understand the dwp will drive me insane if i let it
Thanks
_ I have current medical evidence from gp and specialists which support areas where i lost points on review so yes i am confident that I can prove certain things beyond a doubt and they ignored gp written support in MR
I had 11 points before down to 8 but gained points in new areas and lost previous points even though pretty solid evidence in areas i lost them, but was surprised at where they gave me new points for as these were areas where i felt i had less evidence for?
So i guess if went to appeal _ the areas i feel pretty solid on i am sure would hold up but where they awarded points for things i felt they wouldn't give me i feel less unsure on if appeal looked at everything as not much medical evidence in these bits !
which is why feel unsure about pursing it
I guess i just wanted to make sure my not taking to appeal would not affect me negatively in a review next year as I dont agree my conditions have disappeared and I plan on getting as much continued evidence in preparation for the next round of PIP battle as review would probably happen at same time as a tribunal
I just find it bizarre that a review seems to take zero notice of previous award and comes to seemingly random assessment in comparison to what they did before and although still got an award the make up of points is so different to before as though they have seen a completely different person and they ignored medical evidence giving me points instead for things the medical evidence didnt explicitly cover !
I guess trying to understand the dwp will drive me insane if i let it
Thanks
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7 years 1 month ago #209675 by Gordon
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Norman
It depends on what your hopes for a future assessment are? If you are expecting to get a higher award than now, then having the higher award now will make it more likely that you will receive it again.
That said you can make the arguments for the extra points on your renewal but you will undoubtedly have to provide extra detail to be successful.
If it will help, Tribunals are now asking the DWP for the justification for a reduce award.
Gordon
It depends on what your hopes for a future assessment are? If you are expecting to get a higher award than now, then having the higher award now will make it more likely that you will receive it again.
That said you can make the arguments for the extra points on your renewal but you will undoubtedly have to provide extra detail to be successful.
If it will help, Tribunals are now asking the DWP for the justification for a reduce award.
Gordon
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7 years 1 month ago #209699 by norman21
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I do think in reality i should get enhanced care but whether I can prove it medically at moment I am not sure
But was also concerned that accepting current one meant I agree with their crazy assumptions that my life long degenerative illnesses can be cured and this would prejudice a future review
However I also want to hang on to my sanity and know an appeal would affect my mental health badly so I think as already have a lot of evidence and lots appointments due over next year I think for sanity will concentrate on amassing evidence as couple of consultants helping me with things getting worse and then can use this next time around and being really prepared to prove everything then and it is helpful to know a tribunal should then at least keep current award
Thank you
I do think in reality i should get enhanced care but whether I can prove it medically at moment I am not sure
But was also concerned that accepting current one meant I agree with their crazy assumptions that my life long degenerative illnesses can be cured and this would prejudice a future review
However I also want to hang on to my sanity and know an appeal would affect my mental health badly so I think as already have a lot of evidence and lots appointments due over next year I think for sanity will concentrate on amassing evidence as couple of consultants helping me with things getting worse and then can use this next time around and being really prepared to prove everything then and it is helpful to know a tribunal should then at least keep current award
Thank you
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