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UC & ESA deduction - Is there a discrepancy or am I missing something?
- IlonaM
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4 months 1 week ago #311666 by IlonaM
UC & ESA deduction - Is there a discrepancy or am I missing something? was created by IlonaM
I recently wrote a query on my UC journal as follows, 'I was wondering if you could clarify something for me regarding the deduction for ESA, please. On my payment statements it says that my monthy payment is reduced by the ESA payment, which I understand. However, I am confused by the amount deducted each month:
'As this is an average of other benefits that you're continuing to claim
Employment and Support Allowance minus ‑ £609.05 '
I receive two ESA payments of £281.10 each calendar month, the first on or around 14th of the month and the second on or around 30th, a total of £562.20 pcm. This is less than the £609.05 per month deducted from my Universal Credit each month and has been applied to each of my payments.
I would be very grateful if you could explain the workings as to why the deduction is significantly higher than the actual amount of ESA received.'
I subsequently received this reply from the UC centre, 'ESA is calculated every 2 weeks however universal credit is calculated monthly. As some months have more/less than 4 weeks (ESA) we need to calculate a monthly figure which explains this.
We take your ESA payment X 52 weeks and ,/. by 12 months.'
I am still confused as I never receive more than the two payments stated per month and still cannot understand the discrepancy between the amount deducted and the actual amount of ESA I receive. I apologise if this is a stupid question, but it appears that the total amount of the deducted discrepancy amounts to a 13th month of ESA. Wouldn't it be more transparent and accurate to deduct the amount of ESA I actually receive?
'As this is an average of other benefits that you're continuing to claim
Employment and Support Allowance minus ‑ £609.05 '
I receive two ESA payments of £281.10 each calendar month, the first on or around 14th of the month and the second on or around 30th, a total of £562.20 pcm. This is less than the £609.05 per month deducted from my Universal Credit each month and has been applied to each of my payments.
I would be very grateful if you could explain the workings as to why the deduction is significantly higher than the actual amount of ESA received.'
I subsequently received this reply from the UC centre, 'ESA is calculated every 2 weeks however universal credit is calculated monthly. As some months have more/less than 4 weeks (ESA) we need to calculate a monthly figure which explains this.
We take your ESA payment X 52 weeks and ,/. by 12 months.'
I am still confused as I never receive more than the two payments stated per month and still cannot understand the discrepancy between the amount deducted and the actual amount of ESA I receive. I apologise if this is a stupid question, but it appears that the total amount of the deducted discrepancy amounts to a 13th month of ESA. Wouldn't it be more transparent and accurate to deduct the amount of ESA I actually receive?
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4 months 1 week ago #311669 by David
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Replied by David on topic UC & ESA deduction - Is there a discrepancy or am I missing something?
Hi ilonaM
Your ESA is £140.55 per week. Universal Credit multiplies this by 52 to get the full amount you receive in a year which is £7308.60 and then divides that by 12 to get the monthly amount which makes £609.05.
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Your ESA is £140.55 per week. Universal Credit multiplies this by 52 to get the full amount you receive in a year which is £7308.60 and then divides that by 12 to get the monthly amount which makes £609.05.
David
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9 hours 10 minutes ago #314173 by Wirralguy
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Hi David.I was migrated to UC July 25.I received £281.10 per fortnight.My UC(after deductions was £162.27 per month)
Looked at my UC statement for May 26 and my UC payment is now £702.
My ESA was a still being paid fortnightly at £291.Really confused.
Looked at my UC statement for May 26 and my UC payment is now £702.
My ESA was a still being paid fortnightly at £291.Really confused.
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6 hours 7 minutes ago #314175 by David
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Replied by David on topic UC & ESA deduction - Is there a discrepancy or am I missing something?
Hi Wirralguy
The good thing about UC is that you can communicate with the Case Manager via your Journal.
Send a message querying the amount and make sure you choose as recipient " A Payment" and it will be routed to the Case Manager. Do not choose Work Coach or nothing will happen.
David
The good thing about UC is that you can communicate with the Case Manager via your Journal.
Send a message querying the amount and make sure you choose as recipient " A Payment" and it will be routed to the Case Manager. Do not choose Work Coach or nothing will happen.
David
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