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2 days 8 hours ago #315321 by Ronnie
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Thank you, LL26...
I have opted for a paper-based 'hearing' because there is no way in this world that I could manage to attend in person under any circumstances without severe harm to myself. I would freeze and convey nothing about my situation. I clam up completely on the phone too.
My original claim was correct, but I didn't know what I was doing and I knew nothing about PIP. I had no help either. It was very descriptive in parts but obvious to me later that it was an easy target for refusal.
I was severely distressed on the phone at my Health Assessment, but masked it just to get through it and get it over with without conveying anything of my situation. The Health Assessor was callous with his first question, and I knew instinctively that he had already made his decision.
My appeal was better: more detailed towards the descriptors because at this stage, after months of thinking about the details of my conditions and how they affect me, and with help from this website, I understood more about what to say and how to say it. I can be quite confident when writing, but I am completely hopeless on the phone or face-to-face.
I have completely stayed away from the point-scoring side of things. Numbers are not my thing and it all addles my brain. I decided that it should be the job of the tribunal to work that side of things out - it is just all too much for me so I concentrated on being as descriptive as I could in my Mandatory Reconsideration (zero points) and my appeal.
All I can do now is wait, I guess. I did supply further information to the tribunal after reading my PA4, which arrived late due to me requesting it verbally and via tracked letters SIX times in total.
I have opted for a paper-based 'hearing' because there is no way in this world that I could manage to attend in person under any circumstances without severe harm to myself. I would freeze and convey nothing about my situation. I clam up completely on the phone too.
My original claim was correct, but I didn't know what I was doing and I knew nothing about PIP. I had no help either. It was very descriptive in parts but obvious to me later that it was an easy target for refusal.
I was severely distressed on the phone at my Health Assessment, but masked it just to get through it and get it over with without conveying anything of my situation. The Health Assessor was callous with his first question, and I knew instinctively that he had already made his decision.
My appeal was better: more detailed towards the descriptors because at this stage, after months of thinking about the details of my conditions and how they affect me, and with help from this website, I understood more about what to say and how to say it. I can be quite confident when writing, but I am completely hopeless on the phone or face-to-face.
I have completely stayed away from the point-scoring side of things. Numbers are not my thing and it all addles my brain. I decided that it should be the job of the tribunal to work that side of things out - it is just all too much for me so I concentrated on being as descriptive as I could in my Mandatory Reconsideration (zero points) and my appeal.
All I can do now is wait, I guess. I did supply further information to the tribunal after reading my PA4, which arrived late due to me requesting it verbally and via tracked letters SIX times in total.
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11 hours 59 minutes ago #315338 by LL26
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Replied by LL26 on topic Lost job during PIP claim at tribunal stage
Hi Ronnie,
Make sure that the Tribunal knows why you elected for a paper hearing. If you haven't already, explain all the difficulties, especially what you have said about the assessment in your recent post.
Again, if you haven't already try and pin down things you can prove are wrong with the assessment/decision. I had a comment once that the claimant walked to visit his mother several times over week. This wasn't possible since she had passed away many years before. Look Point out inconsistencies as well. This is best done with bullet points picking out the worse errors rather than a long essay.
Don't worry about the points amounts. I only suggest this because if you can try and work out what points are correct on each descriptor this will give you a better focus and you can then concentrate on this. There is nothing wrong in telling the tribunal 'I should get 2 points for X because ...'
I hope this helps.
LL26
Make sure that the Tribunal knows why you elected for a paper hearing. If you haven't already, explain all the difficulties, especially what you have said about the assessment in your recent post.
Again, if you haven't already try and pin down things you can prove are wrong with the assessment/decision. I had a comment once that the claimant walked to visit his mother several times over week. This wasn't possible since she had passed away many years before. Look Point out inconsistencies as well. This is best done with bullet points picking out the worse errors rather than a long essay.
Don't worry about the points amounts. I only suggest this because if you can try and work out what points are correct on each descriptor this will give you a better focus and you can then concentrate on this. There is nothing wrong in telling the tribunal 'I should get 2 points for X because ...'
I hope this helps.
LL26
Nothing on this board constitutes legal advice - always consult a professional about specific problems
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