Benefits and Work and Inclusion London have obtained counsel’s advice on possible challenges to the Pathways To Work Green Paper proposals. 

The advice suggests that at this stage there appears to be no clear or obvious route for challenge or ‘silver bullet’ regarding the ‘flagship’ elements of the policy.  Instead, individuals and organisations should focus efforts on challenging elements of the Green Paper politically as much as possible.

Benefits and Work and Inclusion London asked solicitors Leigh Day to obtain advice from counsel about the potential legal challenges to the March 2025 welfare reform proposals.  Leigh Day appointed barrister Tom Royston of Garden Court North Chambers to undertake the work.

Both Leigh Day and Tom Royston have a great deal of experience in social security law and we are grateful to them for the very detailed advice they have provided.

The advice addressed the following proposals in the Green Paper:

(I) ‘Focussing PIP more on those with higher needs’: the proposal to require at least one 4 point descriptor to be met to qualify for PIP;

(II) ‘Scrap the WCA’: the proposal to amend the process by which ill and disabled people can claim income replacement benefit, and the amount of money they receive;

(III) ‘New unemployment insurance’: the proposal to amalgamate contributory ESA and JSA into a single time limited contributory benefit;

(IV) ‘Delaying access to the UC health element until age 22’: not paying 18-21 PIP recipients any extra means tested element in UC.

Looking in summary at the above proposals, counsel told us that substantial challenges to central aspects of the envisaged legislation would ‘be likely to fall at various places along a spectrum from ‘hopeless’ to ‘challenging’.”

In other words, given the information currently available, the chances of preventing the proposals being made law or overturning them subsequently appear to be limited.

In relation specifically to PIP, a range of issues were considered, including - but not limited to -the decision not to consult on this measure, challenges under the Human Rights Act 1998 and challenges under the Equality Act 2010.  But the probability of any challenge succeeding in relation to the PIP 4-point rule specifically was considered to be low and heavily dependent on circumstances.

Counsel did stress, however, that there may well be successful legal challenges in the future to elements of the above proposals, but these are likely to be to “contingent aspects of the proposals which emerge along the way, rather than to the elementary principles which were clear at the start.”

In other words, if the laws are enacted, then the courts may have a major role to play in examining the way they are interpreted and implemented but not in upsetting the basic foundations, such as the PIP 4-point rule. Benefits and Work will aim to support any such challenges in any way it can.

We are not able to publish the advice at present and we should add that it applies only to the four issues listed.  The Green Paper contains many more proposals that were not covered.

In addition, we did not ask for advice on whether the current Green Paper consultation is lawful, because our initial enquiries are primarily about proposals which are not being consulted on.

We know that this news will be greeted with considerable dismay by many readers, who had hoped that the courts could prevent such clearly cruel and discriminatory proposals coming into force.

Sadly, there seems unlikely to be ‘silver bullet’ or straightforward legal answer.

Instead, by far the best hope of preventing these cuts is to persuade MPs to pledge to vote against them, as evidence grows that the Labour Party is struggling to contain a rebellion.

As one Labour MP, Neil Duncan-Jordan, who won his seat with a majority of just 18 votes but who has 5,000 constituents receiving PIP, told the Guardian  “The whole policy is wrong. It goes without saying that if these benefits cuts go through, I will be toast in this seat.”

More facts about the effects of the cuts are being uncovered with each passing week. 

Making MPs, especially those with slim majorities, aware of how dramatically the cuts will affect claimant’s lives provides the best hope that they will never come to pass.

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    · 7 days ago
    More needs to be said on the axing of Contributory ESA and whether it's just for new claimants as article 54 suggests, or existing ones too. I've seen absolutely nothing written on this.
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      · 7 days ago
      @Peeved I agree, can aB&W moderator comment? Thank you 
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      · 7 days ago
      @Peeved i have been searching for info on this too and so far i have failed to find anything to shed any light on the matter!
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      · 7 days ago
      @Peeved Yes it is like it has been hidden away Especially by the bigger issue for most by the changes for PIP But it is still an important issue I think As someone who gets Contribution based ESA myself All these changes have the smell of eventually meaning all benefits being moved under the umbrella of universal credit and all being income based  Contribution based benefits for the chop Along with the loss of PIP being given on need only A income based element will be included too It could come There has already been talk of OAP ending up as an income based benefit So we should not ignore the changes to contribution ESA As it could just be a warning shot Swamped by the other changes But should not be forgotten or pushed aside
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    · 7 days ago
    The only thing to do is to boot Labour out at the next General Election. Vote for Greens or Lib Dems. 
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      · 7 days ago
      @Simon You don't need to worry, Labour has certainly lost the next General Election. Rachel Reeves is on a one woman mission to make Labour Party unelectable.
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      · 7 days ago
      @Simon So true, I only voted in last general election because I'm in Wales and could vote Plaid Cymru
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    · 7 days ago
    This is hard to take in: after years of physical and mental pain, I would have never expected this from Labour.  That they want to weed out the cheats is a good thing.  But everything I have read so far tells me they do not understand what being disabled entails, not on a daily basis. It’s not just the physical pain we have to endure, it’s the mental anguish too, the way that the rest of society looks upon us as inferior, damaged, useless.  I know I couldn’t survive without P.I.P and if it comes to that, there will be only one way to go for me….
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      · 4 days ago
      @Angel Absolutely. Before the election Bridget Phillipson was advocating for air filtration/ventilation to prevent transmission. Now she could do it, but there's not a peep. Hardly anyone is eligible for vaccination.

      And the harm, neglect and stigma against people with ME is applied to people with Long Covid. The biopsychosocial, ie psychosomatic, paradigm that has harmed us for decades is integral to benefit reform. At its heart is the belief that no one is really ill, it's just our false beliefs that are stopping us from working. Just see how a book by one of the exponents, Suzanne O'Sullivan, is promoted everywhere and praised by Wes Streeting.
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      · 7 days ago
      @Angel I read somewhere that the increase since the Pandemic was in the majority youngsters with a variety of mental conditions. If true .. why would the list of disabilities being targeted ( mentioned somewhere above) include the older generation with Arthritis, MS, Parkinsons , Heart Disease ? 
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      · 7 days ago
      @Frenchy There is virtually no fraud regarding Pip. That is a false narrative. They are not doing this to “weed out the cheats.” 
      Since the pandemic began, applications for Pip, ESA/UC health element, have increased substantially. There is rarely any mention as to why this has occurred -only that it is “unsustainable.” PASC/LC has affected millions of people. (me included) There is very little help for people with long-term health issues. Instead of trying to do something about this, mitigating the harms caused to people from repeated Covid infections, there is nothing. And now they are blaming people who are sick and disabled for the increase. It’s shameful. 
      But please do not lose hope. I am also angry about the proposals. This is an attack on the social care system. An attack on us. It’s eugenics. 
      We will resist. We will fight. 
      Peace out. 
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      · 7 days ago
      @Frenchy I am afraid once before in history there was a leader of the labour party (Ramsey McDonald) in 1931 who too betrayed the labour movement and joined the Tories and Liberals of the time and formed the National Labour party which then ruled through a coalition. Betrayal often happens when people have been mislead by a pied piper in our midst who goes the opposite way to the movement. 
      I think you should not give up and fight on we will win over tyranny eventually the people always do
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    · 7 days ago
    I contacted my MP about this,   she is, as it says on the GOVT. site :

     'The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Public Health and Prevention and is a position in the Department of Health and Social Care in the Government of the United Kingdom. The role has previously been known as the Minister of State for Public Health'.

    And she couldn't care less.
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      · 7 days ago
      @WorkshyLayabout She’s been jettisoned in to a poisoned chalice. She does need to know anything about the subject. Rather like most politicians. In in it for themselves. Teams of lackeys to do their bidding. Rake in the benefits. No, not the benefits we have to beg for. Benefits they enjoy, flitting about at taxpayers expense, getting their bills paid in their second homes etc…. It’s state sponsored corruption.
      The only decent politician are the ones you’ve never heard of, who quietly go about their business on behalf of their constituents and who don’t seek glory.
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      · 7 days ago
      @O Let's try again...

      She should care because these proposals will directly negatively affects her department.
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      · 7 days ago
      @O Why is the woman in the Health and Social Care Department if she supports these proposals? Too thick to realise that cutting benefits will have a direct negative effect on her department.

      Does anyone on here with brains know the answer?


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    · 7 days ago
    My local MP is Rachel Blake,  she supports these barbaric cuts and when I pressed her on certain issues , she completely ignored them and then in response got one of her lackeys to respond to me 
    These lot really, really don't care about us and come next election ,I hope we remember this 
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      · 7 days ago
      @Moose We will get the list from parliament after the vote happens in June and publish them on a blog
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      · 7 days ago
      @James Yes. Would it be allowed in the Forum as a dedicated post? It would be be good to know which MPs are supportive and who is not. 
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      · 7 days ago
      @James It's called voting, you get what you vote for.  Incidentally liebour only got in power all because of a protest vote . Due to 14 years of Tory austerity.
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      · 7 days ago
      @WorkshyLayabout WorkshyLayabout The point is to name and shame, though. If we type that long list maybe it will grow shorter...
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      · 7 days ago
      @James A list of the ones who do care will be shorter.
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    · 7 days ago
    “The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.” ― George Orwell, 1984
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    · 7 days ago
    Invisible Illnesses, Visible Fallout

    If these changes to disability benefits go ahead, the suffering of people with long-term invisible illnesses won’t just be dismissed—it will be made irreversible. Those with conditions like chronic pain, mental health, and neurological disorders and many others—already battling disbelief and systemic neglect—will lose crucial support. So what happens when we lose that lifeline?

    We will see:

    NHS, care, and GP services overwhelmed, as people crash physically and emotionally

    Mental health wards unable to cope

    Civil unrest and widespread distress

    People collapsing and begging in public due to exhaustion, hunger, untreated illness and homelessness

    Food banks at capacity, turning people away

    Mental health crises unfolding in the street, in full public view

    Emergency services including the police stretched beyond limit.


    There is no “reform” here. This is removal of essential care. And if this goes ahead, the so-called “invisible” will become the most visible crisis this country has faced in decades.

    We must not let this happen quietly we are making our voices heard. We must keep making sure we are visible wherever and whenever possible. MPs - this is not a small adjustment—its a demolition of the social security system for a nation.


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      · 7 days ago
      @CarroA Exactly, well said. I think this ludicrous plan was quickly drawn up by Liz Kendall written out on the back of a passage stamp after Rachel Reeves decided she wanted £5 billion welfare cuts + then Liz Kendall the next day stood up in parliament  + came up with is ludicrous idea. It is very easy to see Kendall was probably at the bottom of the class at school.
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      · 7 days ago
      @CarroA @CarroA 100%
      .They might aswell take our very breath away.
      But fight we must,and will,in any lawful capacity.
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      · 7 days ago
      @CarroA We are already seeing this. I heard yesterday from a home carer, a 102 years old lady still living alone (full mental capacity) had a severe fall at home. Amazingly she got an ambulance quickly, in Wales it's common to be told 5_7 hours wait. 24 hours later this 102 years old lady was STILL being cared for in the ambulance 
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      · 7 days ago
      @CarroA Excellent comment. The truth of the matter in a nutshell. 
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    · 7 days ago
    This will be used as further ammunition by Reeves and co   )-:


    The problem I find is even the perception from good friends of mine about people on benefits. Even if they don’t say so out loud, you can almost read in their eyes what they really think. Or maybe it’s just my paranoia after reading years of propaganda. 

    Joe Public just doesn’t have the facts, and why should they care until it directly affects them. I guess I probably had those prejudices and the same ignorance before it hit my family in a significant way. 

    So I try to educate people on the facts, but it can be humiliating to share how dependent we are on others. Not that there should be any shame in it at all. 

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      · 7 days ago
      @Matt Auntie Beeb may decide to replace the soon-to-be-defunct Children in Need with Disabled in Need! The soon-to-be-defunct bit is from a very reliable source. 

      Charities are failing because people do not have spare money to donate and are aware that most money donated does not go to the cause. 

      For small, local charities, one of the best organisations to ask for funding is the National Lottery. From the same previous source.

      (A non sequitur from Gingin's post) 


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      · 7 days ago
      @Gingin good point. I wonder if the Govt thinks that the third/charitable sector are going to pick up the pieces. If they do, then they are in for a very nasty shock: I received an email from Guide Dogs, via a friend, who confirmed that they had a £20 m shortfall and have made 181 people redundant......
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    · 7 days ago
    I am experienced tribunal advocate and read the Freedom of information request that is the source of these statistics of great interest. I predicted the trend in broad terms at the time the paper was published but the proportion of people in receipt of standard rate daily living without having a four-point descriptor still came as a surprise to me. I present on average up to 100 appeals a year, and presented hundreds for the DWP when I was a presenting officer. I can tell you categorically that there are several four point descriptors which hardly anyone ever gets if they are going through the appeal process. The only ones people get with any degree of regularity are the following.

    1) Needing assistance or supervision to either cook or prepare a simple meal for one person
    2) Needing prompting to take nutrition
    4) Needing assistance to wash between the shoulders and waist
    6) Needing assistance to dress the upper half of the body
    9) Needing social support to engage with people face to face

    The ones that are rarely achieved are:

    3) Needing prompting, supervision or assistance with a therapy taking more than 3.5 hours a week (remember a therapy needs to be clinically advised but critically *done at home*
    5) Needing assistance managing toilet needs
    7) Needing communication support to be able to express or understand complex verbal information (communication support in practical terms usually means someone who can sign for you)
    8) Needing prompting to be able to read or understand basic written information (basic written information is signs, symbols and dates)
    10)Needing prompting or assistance to be able to make simple budgeting decisions (adding up what things cost and how much change you are due)

    Typically in respect of 1, 4 & 6, where people are not initially awarded points, they pick them up on appeal because of upper limb difficulties and problems with fine touch. Obviously there are conditions that score four points for other descriptors but someone who for example, needs physically lifting off the toilet or needs prompting to read a fire escape sign is usually so impaired their claims rarely get to the appeal stage. Advisers should bear this in mind when supporting people with PIP questionnaires.
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    · 7 days ago
    I will be lost if this goes ahead ! I struggle day to day and need the support! 
    I have me , AS , arthritis, COPD. 
    I was finished up from work last year after being at Costco for 20 years.
    They said not a job suitable for me with my health conditions!
    I really miss it there and wish I was fit enough to carry on working !
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    · 7 days ago
    Great work being done by B@W.
    I think alongside any legal approach MPs need to be in no doubt that if they vote for this they will be held personally accountable for the rest of their careers for the suffering that results .  They need to know this now.  My definition of accountable is that the public can go to one place and see a simple record of what was proposed, which MPs supported it and a simple list of what the consequences to individuals were. 
    That information can then be circulated at every future election of any kind in this country to inform the public of individual MPs and their party's  views on disability. 
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    · 7 days ago
    God it's so hard not to just give up reading this, there isn't much fight left in me
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    · 8 days ago
    A few news stories from around the country:

    MPs revolt shows disability cuts aren’t a done deal
    https://socialistworker.co.uk/labour/mps-revolt-shows-disability-cuts-arent-a-done-deal/

    Campaigners challenge Labour MPs over benefit cuts for the disabled (Wales)

    The unkindest cuts of all? Unions blast welfare reforms (Labour Research Department - linked to Trade Unions)  This one's pretty awful bearing in mind that it is downplayind the amount we will lose.   I have written to them.
    https://www.lrd.org.uk/free-read/unkindest-cuts-all-unions-blast-welfare-reforms

    Swansea disability group call for public meeting with Labour MPs over proposed benefit cuts
    https://swanseabaynews.com/2025/04/22/swansea-disability-group-call-for-public-meeting-with-labour-mps-over-proposed-benefit-cuts/

    Comment: Rethink the benefit cuts

    50,000 back MP’s petition for a wealth tax to raise cash instead of welfare cuts

    More than one in 20 working age people in Hendon on disability benefits, as charity warns cuts will drive more people into poverty

    West Dunbartonshire councillors urge UK Government to reconsider benefit cuts
    (I normally warn against the "live" news sites, but this article looks fine).

    I claim PIP - Labour cuts will backfire and push people like me out of work

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    · 8 days ago
    The bottom line is, you can’t legally challenge legislation before it becomes legislation. Waiting until this becomes legislation means millions of disabled people will suffer terribly. The only way to stop this from becoming legislation is to persuade more MPs to vote against it than vote for it. That must be our campaign focus.

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      · 7 days ago
      @FionaW Neatly put, @FionaW, and grimly observed.
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      · 7 days ago
      @FionaW I agree, but. Yes there is always a but. Giving the MP's an abstention is dire tacktics from the whips. I do hope our MP's tell em to stuff it and vote against this horrible legislation.
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    · 8 days ago
    WorkshyLayabout Attendance Allowance does not include access to the motability scheme so even if people qualified (it wouldn't be automatic) they would lose their cars. 

    Losing lcwra would not result in loss of housing benefit, and in universal credit, whether jobseeker, or lcw, there is a work allowance before earnings are deducted from the benefit. There is no work allowance at state pension age, just £5/week disregard in some cases.

    Yes, of course there are people of working age who cannot work, that's a position we're all defending in our resistance to the green paper, but the whole premise of getting people into work is nonsense in relation to the retired, that's the point: they are not of working age. The application of criteria conditional on working to claimants of universal credit or other working age benefits, however detrimental, is a separate issue.
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      · 5 days ago
      @godgivemestrength A double negative. 
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      · 7 days ago
      @WorkshyLayabout WorkshyLayabout Your question is personal, my argument is principle.

      However, to present a scenario: someone with full state pension (by reason of contributions, credits or a combination), who loses pip daily living at whatever level (by reason of the 4 point rule), would not qualify for the severe disability allowance (by reason of not getting pip daily living) and would therefore not qualify for pension credit (by reason of not getting the severe disability allowance).

      If in social housing they would not be automatically eligible for full housing benefit(by reason of not being eligible for pension credit). Their income and their eligibility far housing benefit and council tax reduction would be assessed, and any award would be reduced accordingly, including by the difference between full state pension and the pension credit eligibility threshold, which is the same as the personal allowance for housing benefit and the minimum the government says you have to live on. For anyone in private rented accommodation with rent exceeding the local housing allowance, the burden would be on the claimant to make up the difference between their eligible rent and their actual rent, hence leaving them with less to live on than the minimum set by the government.

      Anyone losing pip daily living, whatever their wider circumstances, will be poorer. This is not a competition, and to treat it as such is to fall for the government's divide and rule strategy. My point, shared by others posting on this site, with reference to pensioners, is that the government cannot invoke the concept of working to earn one's way out of the loss of benefit income where people are over working age. That is a contradiction.

      As I expressed previously, those of working age, who cannot work, have their own distinct arguments to make and I support them. I have no interest in pitting one group against another. The green paper proposals are unacceptable and it is up to everyone to make it their business to oppose them, regardless of their individual situation. My individual situation is not your business.


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      · 7 days ago
      @godgivemestrength What benefits are you currently getting and which will you lose if the proposals happen? Also have you paid enough years of national insurance contributions for a full state pension?

      You do not have to answer.


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      · 7 days ago
      @godgivemestrength No,but it pip affects how much HB you can get,the loss of pip daily living and then lcwra make a huge difference in paying your rent,this is the only thong that won't affect me because I Don't pay rent but I'm set to lose around 12k per annum,cbesa,pip,higher rate no 4 pointers and carers,it won't make me well again will it and I still won't be working ,I've left the house alone this morning on my own for 5 mins,something I haven't done in a very long time and I'm absolutely exhausted for it,work?  no chance,losing my last 3 jobs has said enough 
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    · 8 days ago
    I assume Public Law Project and Bhatt Murphy are still examining the possibility of taking legal action?
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      · 7 days ago
      @Anon I'm set to lose everything, I still can't earn independently,i find that the only thing helping me atm is to step away and put other things in my head,I don't know what else to do,I've had a breakdown over this,it started last April when sunak came out and said they were going to take our payments, I couldn't relax at all,ended up not being able to swallow and list my voice for almost 5 months,I ended up in a state and on sleeping tablets,still have em now,but I'm realising now it's not about worrying about surviving this or u turns ,it's about accepting its gunna happen and trying to find a solution,for us that means trying to live on £353 a month medical retirement pension and my husbands part time wages as hes still going to have to care for me,it means hand to mouth and probably debt,this is where we are,I've cut back already very heavily on energy and food costs, I've cancelled tv licence, lowered everything I can,what else is there to do? I wrote to Jo platt mp for leigh and Atherton who supports the cuts,I hope she isn't expecting to get reelected, she won't be getting my vote that much I do know
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      · 8 days ago
      @Marc Even if they do, as mentioned above, it will fall.

      Labour has asked us to compete with 4 million+ non-disabled for 800 thousand jobs.

      This is a completely reasonable ask.

      Hi-ho
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    · 8 days ago
    Please never ever vote for this corrupt government!!!!
    Who made promises asked people for the vote:) then done all this they have kicked us down, and don’t care, they don’t live in the real world 
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      · 7 days ago
      @🙁🙁 Voting Greens in local elections next week. Will never vote Labour again and I got no trust in libDems and Torys and reform
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      · 7 days ago
      @Anon Yes, they were extremely evasive and when asked repeatedly either changed the subject or gave some ambiguous nonsensical answer. That made me suspicious that they couldn't be trusted and things were going to be severe. 
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      · 8 days ago
      @🙁🙁 Everyone remember Labour's very quiet and evasive attitude all last year whenever questioned on welfare reform?

      "Don't show your cards before or right after the election"
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    · 8 days ago
    As I stated from the beginning the ONLY way for this to be challenged is at the green paper stage. 

    The ONLY hope is for sufficient back bench revolt and I DID and HAVE always said sufficient public outcry but in order to hear public outcry you have to be humane. Starmer and co are NOT humane. 

    I agree with the post that was written by another member (UNABLE to remember exactly who) Some of the green paper proposals were already going on toward the end of the Torie reign. 

    Thanks to Works and Benefits site and the advice from Counsel that they have sought we NOW all KNOW what we are up against. In particular moving forward with this 4 point rule where it appears they seldom give you the full points under any descriptor/activity. Those who have the strength are going to have to go to mandatory consideration and beyond.. However, that WILL ultimately clog up the court system. 

    The disabled community that should have been consulted over this 4 point rule were NOT. 

    However, ALL on this site NEED TO WAKE UP and realize that consultations have been taking place behind our backs for a considerable amount of time.

    Such as:


    THERE HAS BEEN A SHIFT IN ATTITUDE BREWING FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS OVER CERTAIN DISABILITIES AND MENTAL HEALTH EVEN AT PRIMARY CARE I AM SURPRISED THAT NO ONE ELSE HAS NOTICED THIS.

    WHERE DO YOU THINK SOME OF THE STATISTICS THAT STARMER AND CO ARE SHOUTING ABOUT HAVE COME FROM?

    2)  Roll out of migration from Income related ESA to UC was SUPPOSED to have slowly been phased out  allowing until 2028, NOW it is by March 2026! Fears that the DWP system will NOT ensure that the transitions run smoothly between being in the support group and being correctly placed in the equivalent LCWRA group on UC. Then claimants are also FACED with having to provide sick notes from their GP when it SHOULD NOT BE SO as their status on ESA should automatically transfer across to UC. in addition to other claimants MISTAKENLY being put in the working group. When in the Support Group on ESA.

    I am currently going through this process at the moment. THANK GOD for the CAB in my case.

    There are also other members on this site that are being put through the migration process also at this present time and so will a lot more be. IT IS IN A MESS and ERRORS are being made as 66,000 letters a month are being sent out at the moment. So that Starmer and co.. can make the 2026 deadline!

    THE HARM HAS ALREADY STARTED!

    Business Decisions overriding Clinical Decisions. Primary Care Services may perceive that these changes will lessen their work-loads but WAIT until those of us who are chronically long-term sick and disabled are pushed to the brink physically and mentally and THEN they will be called on more than any amount of the sick notes that for some claimants they have thus far had to write. 

    They are going on about work coaches but so many have left the profession! THAT IS A FACT. 

    There are NOT jobs for the able-bodied let alone those with disabilities and ill-health that ALL employers would have to make reasonable adjustments for and the insurance that would be higher.

    Just last week I read that the Government OWE millions to small businesses that made reasonable adjustments to employ the disabled.

    THIS NEWS DOES NOT COME AS A SHOCK TO ME! AS I STATED WEEKS AGO, THE ONLY HOPE WAS FOR SUFFICIENT BACK BENCH REVOLT AND PUBLIC OUTCRY. 

    I DO THINK THAT AS TIME GOES ON THAT IF IT IS MADE LAW THAT THERE WILL BE MANY,MANY LEGAL CHALLENGES ALONG THE WAY AS HEALTH AND SAFETY ISSUES WILL NOT BE IN PLACE AS THEY SHOULD BE.

    I HOPE ALL THOSE AGENCIES AND DISABILITY CHARITIES THAT SUPPORTED LABOUR WITH THEIR BEHIND OUR BACK CONSULTATIONS WHO MAY OR MAY NOT NOW BE THINKING IT HAS NOW GONE FAR TOO FAR, ARE READY FOR THE FALL-OUT OF WHAT IS GOING TO BE ONE TRAGEDY AFTER ANOTHER AS A RESULT OF THIS. THEY WILL HOWEVER, NOT HAVE LESS OF A WORK LOAD BUT EVEN MORE OF A WORK LOAD AS PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO MIRACULOUSLY GET BETTER. INDEED THIS IS GOING TO EXACERBATE THE SICK AND DISABLED HEALTH CONDITIONS. 

    JUST KEEP ON AT YOUR LOCAL MP'S COUNCILS AND YES FOLKS, EVEN YOUR PRIMARY CARE GP SERVICES, SOCIAL WORKERS, LET THEM ALL KNOW THAT THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE LESS BUSY BUT INDEED ARE GOING TO BE OVER WORKED AS THERE ARE GOING TO BE MANY MANY CASUALTIES OF THIS! 

    AGENCY CARE WORKERS WHO HAVE NOW YET TO REALIZE THAT IF THE PROPOSALS GO AHEAD THEY ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE A JOB! THOSE WHO HAVE NOT ENTERED INTO THE PROFESSION BECAUSE THEY CARE BUT INDEED HAVE ABUSED CLIENTS. WHO HAVE COMMENTED IN IGNORANCE TO CLIENTS ABOUT THE PROPOSALS FRIGHTENING PEOPLE.

    THEY HAVE ALL HAD A LOT TO SAY ABOUT US THE DISABLED, LONG TERM SICK BEHIND OUR BACKS WITH THEIR CONSULTATIONS THAT ONLY A FEW IN SOCIETY WERE PICKING UP ON. OVER THE LAST 18 MONTHS OR THEREABOUTS.
     






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      · 7 days ago
      @SLB But why hes also targeting not just teenagers but old and midelaged and pensioners seen loads of posts 70 yrs old also go lose pip to 
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      · 8 days ago
      @DJ Starmer isn't quoting statistics, he's just repeating over and over that these cuts are to get the young back into work.  
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    · 8 days ago
    I’m a single mum to a 4 year old. I’m largely housebound, very often bedbound with M.E. Rely on carer’s support for cooking, cleaning, caring for my child, shopping, lifts to appointments etc. Obviously desperate to be well enough to work but just getting to the loo and back some days uses all the energy I have. Simply cannot work more than a few hours per week max during better periods of health. 
    The changes will knock £6k off my annual income and leave me with less that £10k per year total income (inc. child maintenance and child benefit). I cannot survive on this. My bills are all going up. Can’t eat, heat, care for my child etc etc. Utterly terrified. 
    Even if this talked about extra support to ‘tackle child poverty’ goes through with payments for parents of children under 5, this doesn’t include me. I will be in ‘absolute poverty’ and I don’t know what further sanctions will be placed on me when I still can’t work. 
    I’m completely shocked that this doesn’t constitute a legal case. 

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      · 7 days ago
      @Anon A @Anon there been protests in Bristol today on the benefit cuts and heard a couple of famous actors also came to join the protests to 
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      · 7 days ago
      @Anon A I thought young folk had to remain in education until they were 18. Surely being in full-time educational means they are not expected to look for work.
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      · 7 days ago
      @Von I got a standard reply from my mp Jo platt,about getting young into work etc etc, she supports the cuts,if she seriously thinks she's getting voted back in she's mistaken, leigh is a downtrodden area with many sick snd disabled and Atherton isn't much better,they are poor towns with many people having a low income ,she will lose her seat over this,that I'm sure of,she obviously doesn't know the area she's an mp for as much as she thinks,leigh people were always supported by Andy Burnham who always got voted in until he left politics and became mayor,he is not in favour of the cuts atall
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      · 7 days ago
      @Mick I've just researched Angela raynors stance on the cuts,she is spouting on about having to get 16 to 18 yr olds into work as an excuse for the cuts,when will people wake up,NEETS as their known  DONT CLAIM PIP fgs they must think just because were disabled were also stupid,WRONG!!!
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      · 7 days ago
      @Dave It was only last week I watched Angela Raynor in an interview fully supporting the cuts and completely toeing the party line.  Exact same language and lines coming out of her face hole as the rest of them.  I'm not sure about the threat to resign still standing as it seems she has turned the other cheek based on the interview I watched.
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    · 8 days ago
    Thank you B@W for this update. I still have hope the right legal case with be enough to get it into Court.
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