Whilst there is still no news on who is being approached to take part in the Timms review, a number of leading charities have written to the minister this month arguing for genuine co-production.

And Disabled People Against Cuts are keeping up the pressure, with a demonstration outside the Labour party conference next month.

Meanwhile, Organise have started a consultation on the PIP review process.

Charities call for genuine co-production

At the beginning of the month we explained why the Timms review has fallen at the first hurdle when it comes to being genuinely co-produced.  We pointed out that the group of ten people who are going to assist Timms with the review are going to be selected by Timms himself, who will also chair the review. 

Yet one of the very basic principles of co-production is that there should be an independent chair who can decide who sits on the committee.  In no way can Timms be described as independent.

Two weeks after our article, a group of charities wrote to Timms pointing out that co-production means more than just “consultation and mere presence at the table”. 

The organisations calling for genuine co-production include:

  • Z2K 
  • Turn2us 
  • Advice UK 
  • Amnesty International 
  • Carers UK 
  • Christians Against Poverty 
  • Citizens Advice 
  • Disability Benefits Consortium 
  • Law Centres Network 
  • Mind 
  • MS Society 
  • National Association of Welfare Rights Advisers 
  • Rethink Mental Illness 
  • Royal National Institute of Blind People (RNIB) 
  • Trussell 

Their letter asks Timms to ensure that there is broad and balanced representation, rather than unrepresentative voices on the review.   This should include “people with experience of navigating the benefits system, people living in poverty, and those from minoritised groups.” The signatories also want to see unpaid carers and welfare rights advisers involved.

Given that Timms has already said he envisages appointing just ten people, it is hard to see how this can be achieved.

The charities also call for a final evaluation of the genuineness of the co-production process before the report is debated, with participants able to give anonymous feedback.

The letter asks for full transparency, including publishing details this Autumn of how the review will work, as well as the publication of the minutes of all the review meetings ahead of any debate once the review is completed.

Finally, the charities want there to be a debate and vote in the Commons to approve the outcome of the review.

Benefits and Work believes that these are all reasonable requests by some of the leading advice and disability charities.  What is most important, however, is how these charities will respond if it becomes clear by this Autumn that some of even their initial requests are not being met.

Will charities be willing to publicly  withdraw support from the review if it is clear that the committee is not representative, or its that its make-up and methods of work are kept secret from the outset?

Timms made it clear that the support of some specific, though unnamed organisations, was vital to the review when he denied it was designed to deliver spending cuts, saying: “I don’t think some of the people who we need to be involved in the review would be if they thought that that’s what it was for.”

If the legitimacy provided by charitable organisations is seen as vital by Timms, then it gives them at least some leverage to push Timms into making this review as genuinely co-produced as possible.

DPAC protest at Labour conference

Disabled People Against Cuts are organising a protest against Labour policies outside the party’s annual conference next month.

“Genocide Abroad, Democide At Home”  is billed as a “protest against the Labour policies killing disabled people”. It will assemble at 12.00pm on Monday 29 September at The Wheel of Liverpool L3 4FN.

More details from DPAC as they become available.  

Organise campaign

The Organise platform, which appears to be primarily designed to help workers win better pay and conditions is holding a consultation and poll on “Shall we keep pushing the government to protect sick and disabled people?”

Organise say that Timms promised a public review of the cuts to PIP but is now saying just 10 people may be invited to take part.

You can participate in their poll here.

What else is happening?

Are you aware of any news or protests relating to PIP changes?  Please post them in the comments section below to share with other readers.

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    · 1 days ago
    May of been a little unfair in what I implied in my previous post:

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    · 1 days ago
    I won’t post direct links on this chairperson for the disability board being put together by the gov.

    However her LinkedIn account she describes herself as a “Self-Employed consultant”
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      · 1 days ago
      @Matt Cuts maybe forced on the government like in greece.
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      · 1 days ago
      @D From the details linked - "In its work the Panel must recognise it does not have the authority to:

      commit the government to any actions. This is not a decision-making body

      The Department for Work and Pensions will not expect Panel members to endorse government policy publicly"

      So they really can just ignore everything the panel says 
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      · 1 days ago
      @Matt This bit I found interesting:

      “The Panel will run separately to the Timms Review of Personal Independence Payment (PIP), but expertise and insight will be shared between the two.”


      We already know that timms has already put together his 10 person panel that will oversee the timms pip review (and been confirmed that they’ve already had their first 1-2 meetings)

      Reading between the lines as timms is putting together a separate panel solely made up of disability representation that implies that there is no disability representation from individuals or organisations in the 10 person timms pip review panel (if there was you wouldn’t really need this 10 person separate disability panel?)

      To me this looks like a pr exercise and timms being able to claim he’s involving disabled community in collaboration of disability reforms on a technicality (as well never find out who’s on the timms review board without a whistleblower - difficult with nda)

      And there was never a public application for the timms review board so what pool of people did timms pick those ppl from?

      Is there a way to request a freedom of information asking timms to reveal how he picked the 10 person timms review panel and their jobs/reason why they qualify/chosen as panel member ?
      P(as it’s a human rights issue to disclose their names)

      If the disabled community has any chance to uncover what appears like timms deceit (and dishonesty of promises) we’ve probably got very limited time to do so as you know Labour will want to succeed in rushing through take 2 of disability cuts before disability supporters can mount effective pushback & counter argument (but like a game of chess)

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      · 1 days ago
      @D Not surprised about the NDA. Still standard procedure in the public sector, especially the NHS.  I fear we know what's coming, firstly a Budget with substantial tax rises to be followed by severe public spending cuts (which will inevitably mean welfare).
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    · 2 days ago
    Just seen in the Spectator daily briefing that Kendall is due to answer oral questions at 2:30 this afternoon.
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    · 3 days ago
    Thanks for keeping this in the spotlight.

    It’s hard not to believe we’re watching the same play over and over: the Tory “consultation” thrown out by the courts, Labour’s UC/PIP Bill that nearly collapsed because everyone saw it was another stitch-up, and now Timms hand-picking and chairing his own “co-produced” review.

    I was really glad to see the charities writing to him this month — that gave me some hope. But ideally Timms should step aside altogether, and a whole new review should begin with genuine independence. And let’s be clear: it should be called the PIP Review, not the “Timms Review.” Disabled people don’t need yet another process carrying the name of a politician complicit in the last fiasco.

    The real test will come this autumn. Do the charities actually have teeth? Will they be willing to down tools and walk away if it’s obvious this is just another farce? That would speak louder than any polite letter.

    We need to keep the spotlight on this, because so much is happening under the manipulative, gas-lit shadows of fake “consultations” and stitched-up reforms. Thank you for refusing to let it slide into the dark.
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    · 3 days ago
    I have written to my Tory MP 3 weeks ago and asked him to challenge Stephen Timms about this shambles of a co production PIP review but haven't had a reply yet. All this is very concerning but it's good to hear that some major charities have already started to put pressure on Timms and reminded him and the government that disabled people and their families will not give up. 
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      · 2 days ago
      @Ann Excellent post caroA . 
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    · 4 days ago
    Theirs going to be a lot of problems if all these cuts goes ahead in future I went for my universal credit  lcw interview this week my work coach was heartless wouldn’t listen was told it’s tough when she was constantly talking over me about workwell and restart program was just awful these monthly appointments are making me mentally poorly and having to wait at least 1 year for wca reassessment for lcwra so just stuck in a queue :(
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      · 1 days ago
      @HL Hi Peter
      As HL advises contact your MP.
      I would also make a complaint about the Work Coach as well ,thus if your MP asks if you've complained you can say; 
      Yes I have and require a more sympathetic Work Coach as its seriously affecting health and wellbeing.

      https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/department-for-work-pensions/about/complaints-procedure


      Incidentally I did post this reply yesterday which didn't get posted ???
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      · 1 days ago
      @HL Hi Peter
      As HL advises contact your MP.
      I would also make a complaint about the Work Coach as well ,thus if your MP asks if you've complained you can say; 
      Yes I have and require a more sympathetic Work Coach as its seriously affecting health and wellbeing.

      https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/department-for-work-pensions/about/complaints-procedure
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      · 3 days ago
      @Peter Hi Peter,
      That sounds horrible. In case its helpful – I saw somewhere (UC Claims Guide?) B&W suggest contacting your MP for support if you have DWP issues. Might be worth a shot.
      All my best wishes.
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      · 3 days ago
      @Peter Do people ever complain about them being horrible?. If so what happens . They like to perpetuate a climate of fear around this. However I bet they are very careful about the people who are likely to verbally abuse or attack them. They’ll have them coming in for benefits as well. Cowards being nasty to people who don’t fight back .
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      · 3 days ago
      @Lana Lets hope karma bites her and soon, heartless shell of a woman youd think she was paying your benefits out of her own pocket 🤬

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