A troubling picture of DWP disability minister Stephen Timms has emerged from a meeting he held with campaigners from the Christian charity Church Action on Poverty. Timms allegedly walked wordlessly around a disabled woman collapsed on the floor in order to leave the meeting and did not send a message afterwards to check how she was.

Four campaigners had a thirty minute meeting with Timms about the Pathways To work Green Paper and told the Disability News Service that the minister would not listen to their arguments.

One of the campaigners said the Timms had gone into the meeting “with his foot stamped down” and when he was challenged with difficult questions he became “abrupt and defensive”.

She said: “There was no expression of warmth, there was no sitting and listening; he was expressionless.

“There was no change in his expression, that was what was odd.

“He just kept saying, ‘It’s going to work, it’s going to work,’ like a child.”

Timms told the campaigners that the cuts to benefits would cause a “cultural change in disabled claimants”.

“When we asked him what he meant, he said: ‘People like yourselves, with support, you could go to work.’”

This was in spite of the fact that one of the attendees, Mary Passeri, had formerly been a further education lecturer who had lost three jobs because she kept collapsing due to ger health conditions.

When Passeri, who had travelled three hours from York to be at the meeting, passed out at the end of the meeting it is alleged that Timms edged around the table and past the collapsed activist, leaving the room without saying a word.

Afterwards a first aider arrived, but Timms did not send any kind of message to enquire after Passeri’s wellbeing.

Passeri said Timms behaviour was “a good indication of how removed he is from disabled people”.

The picture that emerges from the meeting, if accurate, suggest a minister deeply devoid of empathy who has replaced listening to evidence with a blind faith that if only the reforms can be forced through they are certain to work. 

It is an alarming thought that this is the man who has already begun work on rewriting the assessment criteria for PIP.

Meanwhile, claimants and other campaigners will probably be better served by putting evidence of the harm the Green Paper will do in front of backbenchers who are still willing to listen.

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    · 7 hours ago
    Timms cares for nobody except himself. A career politician that would change direction in a flash as long as he keeps his cushy jobs. Never forget.


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    · 12 hours ago
    I claim pip and like everyone we are all worried by the changes that this labour government propose .Like us all if i loose my pip i will not be able to manage due to my health conditions.
    My current award is due for review in august 2026.
    I would also like to know , are there any claimants who claim pip and where their award is due for review this year ,and  sent their review paperwork back to the dwp and now had a letter saying their award is being extended until next year .
    I know of two people  who have had these letters , are the dwp being very clever in sending these letters out and not carrying out their review assessments where they could potentially have another award for a few years , but by doing this they could loose their award next year if these proposals go through because these two persons i know neither of them have any four points under the daily living component .

    I myself have not got four points on any of the daily living descriptors so this is a real worry for us all and none of this labour government care  .

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      · 1 hours ago
      @colcs When claims are auto extended and new award decisions delayed. When the new award decision is made if it is higher it is back dated to the date the award decision was originally supposed to be made. Which would imply the award is backdated so legislation at the time the award decision was originally supposed to be made applies.

      Hopefully the DWP will clarify what they will do. When they start auto extending from before Nov 2026 to Nov2026 and beyond. 
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      · 4 hours ago
      @colcs
      colcs, It's difficult to figure that one, because they seem to be able to make up the rules as they go along.

      The way I see it is:

      1) If they've given you a decision based on your review paperwork and the evidence you sent in, plus a paper/phone/video/face to face assessment, set out the points and re-awarded your pip, then they can review any time, and if that's after the new rules come in you will be subject to those.

      2) If they've just extended your award without following up on the review paper work, without an assessment or a decision or any points allocation, that looks like an extension because they have not caught up with the reviews. You will have an assessment then they should base the decision on the rules at the time of the review deadline on the review form you have filled in and returned. You will be able to challenge the award in the usual way.

      All you can do is to keep gathering medical evidence and be aware of what rules might be in place when you next have to state your case, either to show you are eligible within the new rules at your next review, or to challenge any decision made on your current review.

      It's tricky, but I hope that helps.




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      · 9 hours ago
      @colcs I would not put it past DWP to be doing that.  Nothing would surprise with them and this government.
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    · 1 days ago
    In the meantime we're all left in hellish Limbo not knowing what the future holds for us. I don't want to end up homeless and would rather plan now by selling my stuff and buying a van to live in. Getting ahead of it feels like the only way I can cope. I won't live to be an old Woman that way but maybe I can eek out a few years and hope that sense prevails. Not sure I'll get over losing my home though, I've been here 17 years. They just don't seem to care, I've been told by my therapist I'll never work again, fgs I can't even look after myself. There's no culture change in making us destitite, it's NOT going to work.
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      · 5 hours ago
      @Js Try not to get overly stressed and give up your home just yet JS. We are all worrying about it. I’m worried that I won’t be able to afford my home too so you are not alone. Just hang on a little longer until we know for definite what is going to happen. Lots can change before we have to give up our homes. Keep strong a little longer. Thinking of you and everyone else struggling like this. 
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      · 1 days ago
      @Js @Jb it's not going to happen. Hold your ground.
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    · 1 days ago
    i was wondering what is happening in regards to his former comment that the PIP changes were for 'working age  persons', in  fact the govt were thru this debacle referring to 'working age persons' and the changes were  put for that alone. Subsequently we  now know  it refers to state pension age too. Surely this is a casein  point  to take them to  court  over this change  of precedence. Also  the  people who  were placed  on  indefinite/life time awards which have  been  later abolished with PIP. IS there no recourse for these abhorrent changes to be challenged in court. Along with  it seems  many are still on  DLA, and the precursor and  seemingly will not be changed,  is that  not in effect a  one rule for  one and another rule for other. Many have jumped thru every hoop that  is thrown at them, even tho  the  paperwork states ' this person  is not able to  be in the work force and  is now granted a 10 yr now PIP max  time span', awaiting the short  check to see  if it will  continue. It seems they just prat about and have no  clue  on who or what  they are doing.
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      · 20 hours ago
      @pusscatsmum "we now know it refers to state pension age too" 
      Do we? 

      I thought according to the government the 4pt rule will only apply when someone has a full review/reassment. Which PIP awards with end dates have when the end date approaches and they need to be reassed re-awarded. 

      PIP claimants over state pension age generally have ongoing/indefinite awards that have no end date and are just light touch reviewed every 10 years.


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    · 1 days ago
    Not surprised he's a typical liberal full of faux sympathy but scratch the surface and he's as hard as nails like any other politician 
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    · 1 days ago
    I don’t know what kind of Christian he is to do this, but at the same time from my experience, religious people are often the most callous kind. Behave abysmally to your fellow humans during the week, then a few prayers on a Sunday, and we’re all good to go again. Sins cleansed. We’ve known for some time what we are up against.
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    · 1 days ago
    Timms has become interesting to follow recently, if anyone like myself reads the written questions and answers the ministers get to send to the DWP his responses are becoming very subtly tetchy. His answers are more often than not cut and paste but with the occasional bit of exasperation thrown in, this one was particularly funny in a dark kinda way. https://questions-statements.parliament.uk/written-questions/detail/2025-05-08/51040
    When asked about the anxiety of those potentially losing pip he replies that they are working to 'address anxiety about the sustainability of the funding of PIP' which I just pictured him typing with an outraged look on his face that people aren't automatically on board. 
    In my armchair psychologist opinion he's got it into his head he's going to save us all with this revolutionary idea and we are all to silly to understand so we should just trust and believe our betters. He's not listening to valid fears and criticism because they don't fit in with his view of reality. He's a lost cause, noone is getting through to him so turn your efforts towards lobbying your mp to vote this down. 
    I feel for the poor lady who fainted but in the end like the rest of us she is just an annoying detail in the way of his glory. 
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      · 1 days ago
      @keepingitreal Id like to say I hope he's really suffering with the morality of it all and losing sleep, but unlike him I'm actually gonna follow the teachings of Christ and wish him well and send him forgiveness. I can only hope something, divine or not, shows him that what he's doing is so very harmful. 
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      · 1 days ago
      @Sam @Sam - "...in the end like the rest of us... " - in his head, you mean.
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      · 1 days ago
      @Sam I've always thought his answer to the impact of pip on pensioners was in the vein of which you speak - irritated, as if it should have been obvious, when it's far from it. He's not coping - if he believed in what they're trying to do/had a grip he wouldn't be so aggressive.
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      · 1 days ago
      @Sam Yep his reaction says a lot more about him than it does disabled people 
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    · 1 days ago
    It raises the question of why we have a disabilities minister who is not disabled.  Would you have a women's minister who was not a woman? 
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      · 1 days ago
      @Slb @Slb, it's because he's a Samaritan, stupid 🙄
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    · 1 days ago
    And naturally the ableists are defending him and claiming that he was better off out of the way anyway. Even though this didn’t stop Rishi Sunak from making sure a presenter was OK when they collapsed while questioning him and Liz Truss.

    The fact that Timms didn’t even appear to react in any way, shape or form or make inquiries afterwards gives off the impression he could not care less. You can defend such apathy until you’re blue in the face: combine this with Liz Kendall walking around with a big smile on her face while she ignored a PIP claimant, this isn’t the behaviour of a government that cares about the disabled.
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      · 1 days ago
      @Dez @Dez, They're in over their heads. This sort of behaviour from Timms and Kendall isn't just cruelty. They're inadequate to the situation. They know they're wrong and it's screwing them up.
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      · 1 days ago
      @Dez Well actually he did care - about being made to look bad ! 

      That is all they care about. - their personal optics for their career and future ambitions.  

      Vote them out! 
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    · 1 days ago
    Never liked him. 
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    · 1 days ago
    I would hope that any disabled person will never, ever vote Labour again. 
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      · 1 days ago
      @Cecelia Sadly there aren't any NHS dentists in my area at the moment. 
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      · 1 days ago
      @Alex @Alex, that's a strong analytical list. Can you bring it to the attention of your mp? It's useful to see things so clearly put.

      @kevin, we're all fighting, so please hang on in there! 
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      · 1 days ago
      @Alex If your on Universal credit done you receive free dental care,unless it is private.
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      · 1 days ago
      @kevin I understand that, I have felt this way myself many times lately.  I honestly don't see a way out of this, they keep making life harder for us. 

      We can't have a partner, or if we do they are expected to support us. 

      They have taken the SDP from us, and replaced it with a transitional payment, that erodes over time and robs us. 

      I now have to pay council tax after moving onto UC, despite the lying government promising us that we won't be any worse off. 

      They are going to force more people off PIP. 

      They are going to rewrite PIP to make it harder to get. 

      We can't have savings of more than £6000 - this amount has been frozen for years and years, and these days isn't a huge amount.  If our landlord evicts us, our car breaks, and our washing machine dies then that's the best part of £6k wiped out. 

      We can't even go abroad for more than a few weeks.  Imagine if we could live in a cheaper country, I could afford dental care and meals out. 

      They've take away my warm home discount for no reason. 

      They've frozen LHA several times, despite my rent going up every year. 

      NHS waiting lists are at record highs, but instead of fixing that they wonder why we are ill?  I have no support at all from them for my mental health. 

      We can't have any dignity or semblance of a normal life.  We are expected to sit here and wait to die. 
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      · 1 days ago
      @Alex The way its going there won't be any disabled, mentally ill or people with chronic illness left to vote in the next election. 

      This government seems hell bent on their eradication of all of the above from society, be it via the poverty rout of benefits cuts, or causing mass suicides just to escape the hell they are creating. At my bipolar support group I have heard five people talk of taking their own lives if the cuts go a head as they will not be able to financially survive without their benefits, this is just the tip of the iceberg. We are sub human to this government and they have no empathy for us and seem hell bent on ridding us from society. 
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    · 1 days ago
    I’ve seen this attitude from civil service staff HMRC in fact who u could write a book about laughing at people with problems and not taking seriously when people had harmed themselves or had accidents. This abuse and I fear a lot of it goes back nreported because of intimidation and or despair. That’s particularly bad on the part of Mr Timms. But the usual response. To take encouragement from it he’s rattled. Also it isn’t an indication of what will inevitably blow up in their faces. I really don’t know what happens to some of them when they get involved in civil service departments but I do know the ego and not listening and wanting recognition and promotions is above anything including customer or staff welfare.. I’ve got a raft of Personal examples. I do think this needs to be fed up to the prime minster the lack of respect and care and quite frankly anyone who will listen press etc. can anyone do this please?. 
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      · 1 days ago
      @Helen Galloway I agree - the defensive stance is a marked change from his initial persona.  I’m guessing g behind the scenes things are not going well for him and ms Kendall. 

      They all look ridiculous now. 
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    · 1 days ago
    How can this be, after all he’s a Labour Minister and an evangelical Christian? 
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      · 1 days ago
      @Unknown Error You’ve just got to look at president Trump and his evangelical supporters big part of the Republican Party and total lack of empathy 
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    · 1 days ago
    "The picture that emerges from the meeting, if accurate, suggest a minister deeply devoid of empathy"

    I've said it before and I'll say it again: this is a government of soulless, dead behind the eyes sociopaths.
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      · 1 days ago
      @Anniesmum
      "Is there anyway the public can put a vote of no confidence or complaint about him."

      The only mechanism I can think of is a recall petition. If 10% or more of his constituents were to sign one then there could be a by-election. The problem is this only happens in response to personal scandals rather than conduct related to policy.   
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      · 1 days ago
      @tintack He shouldn’t be doing the job. Is there anyway the public can put a vote of no confidence or complaint about him. I thought MPs were meant to serve the public, you cannot have someone void of emotions and empathy being disability minister.
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