The Universal Credit Bill (formerly the Universal Credit and Personal Independence Payment bill) has been listed for its second reading in the House of  Lords as a money bill.

According to the UK Parliament website, the second reading and all remaining stages of the Universal Credit (Money Bill) will take place on 22 July.

This means that the Lords can suggest amendments, but the Commons can simply ignore them and the bill will become law one month after it completes all its stages in the Lords.

Along with racing through the committee, report and third reading stage of the bill in the Commons in a single session yesterday, this is another tactic by Labour to prevent any scrutiny of legislation that will take money away from hundreds of thousands of future disabled universal credit claimants.

It also makes it even harder to trust that the government will be seriously interested in the views of disabled people when the Timms review begins its work after the summer.  Genuine consultation does not seem to be something that this Labour government can bear to be involved in.

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    · 22 hours ago
    Does it still stand that the pip 4 point rule has been scrapped?
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      · 15 hours ago
      @HL You're basically wasting your time.  As 
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    · 23 hours ago
    Crooks 
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      · 13 hours ago
      @rookie @rookie He still wasn't bare faced about it. Which is my point! 
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      · 14 hours ago
      @The Dogmother Dick Turpin stole from the rich, though.
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      · 21 hours ago
      @Gingin Dick turpin wore a mask, but they do it bare faced. 
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    · 23 hours ago
    It was pretty inevitable after they took out any mentions of different pip qualifications. The bill now only deals with money so easy decision for the speaker. Any sign of the new fully amended bill anywhere? I'd like to read it as it will be put into law
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      · 15 hours ago
      @Sam I guessed Hoyle would have it as a money bill.  
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    · 23 hours ago
    They might try to get the third reading rushed through before the Summer Recess – which is 24 July.

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    · 23 hours ago
    Does this mean that they can go back on the concessions that they have already made?
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      · 19 hours ago
      @Cuckoo21 For pip, in a way yes. Clause 5 (4 point rule) has been removed. Along with it went the protection for existing claimants. This in turn means that once the Timms review is complete (Nov 2026), We will need to fight for protection for existing claimants (2 Tier System).
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      · 20 hours ago
      @WorriedSick If he does not work with disabled people and organisations it can be challenged in court as the due process was not followed through as part of a judicial review
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      · 20 hours ago
      @WorriedSick The review will be complete not this autumn but autumn 2026.  
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      · 21 hours ago
      @Cuckoo21 Cuckoo21  i flipping hope not but im sure there's a possibility of anything. 
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      · 22 hours ago
      @Cuckoo21 Yes. & that’s why it was so important that the MPs voted it down on the third reading on 9 July 2025 because it now all comes down to whether you trust Sir Stephen Timms. So, given his past liaison with disabled people and what’s happened so far, do you trust his review in autumn? Do you trust coproduction with them to be meaningful? MP’s like Marie Tidball seem to have a huge amount of faith in him and that future coproduction… 
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