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10 years 9 months ago - 10 years 9 months ago #106210 by ESA Headache
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I am totally confused. I am in WRAG and have appealed against being in that group as I feel that I meet the support group descriptors. My case was reconsidered and was refused and is now waiting for appeal tribunal.
What I can't understand is that I understood that in the
Manual Dexterity -Cannot either:
1/ press a button, such as a telephone keypad OR
2/ turn the pages of a book with either hand
I thought and still think that to qualify meant - can't do 1 task or both to meet the criteria, or is it that someone has to be unable to complete both tasks to meet the descriptor support group.
Am I wrong to think this?
What I can't understand is that I understood that in the
Manual Dexterity -Cannot either:
1/ press a button, such as a telephone keypad OR
2/ turn the pages of a book with either hand
I thought and still think that to qualify meant - can't do 1 task or both to meet the criteria, or is it that someone has to be unable to complete both tasks to meet the descriptor support group.
Am I wrong to think this?
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10 years 9 months ago #106211 by Gordon
It is an inclusive OR
- if you cannot press a button, such as a telephone, or
- if you cannot turn the pages of a book, or
- both of the above apply
The problem must exist for the majority of the time in both hands, if you are only affected in one hand, even if it is your dominant hand, you swill not score points.
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ESA Headache wrote: I am totally confused. I am in WRAG and have appealed against being in that group as I feel that I meet the support group descriptors. My case was reconsidered and was refused and is now waiting for appeal tribunal.
What I can't understand is that I understood that in the
Manual Dexterity -Cannot either:
1/ press a button, such as a telephone keypad OR
2/ turn the pages of a book with either hand
I thought and still think that to qualify meant - can't do 1 task or both to meet the criteria, or is it that someone has to be unable to complete both tasks to meet the descriptor support group.
Am I wrong to think this?
It is an inclusive OR
- if you cannot press a button, such as a telephone, or
- if you cannot turn the pages of a book, or
- both of the above apply
The problem must exist for the majority of the time in both hands, if you are only affected in one hand, even if it is your dominant hand, you swill not score points.
Gordon
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10 years 9 months ago - 10 years 9 months ago #106212 by ESA Headache
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Sorry Gordon, so if I were able to press a button but not turn pages of a book I would not qualify for Support group?
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10 years 9 months ago - 10 years 9 months ago #106214 by ESA Headache
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I think that the 'cannot either' then 'or' just stumps me
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10 years 9 months ago #106216 by slugsta
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If you cannot do either one of these things you meet the Support Group descriptor - although persuading DWP/ATOS/Tribunal of this can be another matter!
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10 years 9 months ago - 10 years 9 months ago #106219 by
Hi ESA H,
- if you cannot press a button, such as a telephone
but you can turn the pages of a book
This puts you in The SG.
if you cannot turn the pages of a book
but you can press a button, such as a telephone.
This puts you in The SG.
- if you cannot press a button, such as a telephone,
- if you cannot turn the pages of a book
If both the above apply, this also puts you in The SG.
bro58.
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ESA Headache wrote: I think that the 'cannot either' then 'or' just stumps me
Hi ESA H,
- if you cannot press a button, such as a telephone
but you can turn the pages of a book
This puts you in The SG.
if you cannot turn the pages of a book
but you can press a button, such as a telephone.
This puts you in The SG.
- if you cannot press a button, such as a telephone,
- if you cannot turn the pages of a book
If both the above apply, this also puts you in The SG.
bro58.
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