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A future dependent on her, Starmer, Reeves, Timms or Morgan McSweeney and blue labour is not good enough for the entire UK.  So, what do they intend to do about that??

I know what the UK people will do about it.  They'll find out when  elections come around...

They have been warned at the recent local elections and are on notice.  P45's incoming!!!

Labour canvassers during the local elections reported that disability cuts were raised repeatedly on the doorstep. Labour MPs know that this issue is costing them votes, and therefore potentially their seats - and it's costing them votes before the cuts have even been voted on, let alone implemented. Labour MPs will have a hard time defending their seats at the next election if the cuts have passed and the consequences are becoming apparent to the public.

I doubt the government will quash the rebellion by using the two child cap as a way to bribe its own MPs into letting them throw sick and disabled people under the bus. Remember, giving ground on the WFA was supposed to stem the rebellion over disabiity cuts. It hasn't worked, so now they're throwing the two child cap in there as well. It looks like another desperate move from a politically incompetent government that didn't expect this level of backlash and is increasingly rattled by it. 

I know how you feel, I feel the same way. But progress does seem to have been made. A couple of months ago the Tories said they would vote for the cuts and only about 27 Labour MPs had said they would vote against. Now it looks very possible that the Tories will vote against and the number of Labour MPs opposed appears to be well into three figures. 

A recent quote I saw from an unnamed Labour source said that after the local elections "a lot of people have decided they're more afraid of the voters than the whips" - and while a lot of attention has been focused on the fact that Labour canvassers said the WFA kept coming up on the doorstep, they also said that disability cuts were raised frequently as well, so they know this is costing them votes. We just have to keep up the pressure on Labour MPs to make sure they vote the right way. The greater the pressure from the public, the greater the chance that they will stay more afraid of voters than the whips. That's how it should be.

If that is their plan then they can F right off.

The lot needs scrapping and any reform done for the real improvement of the system and people's lives.  It should be designed with disabled people and the organisations that truly represent us "at the heart of everything we do" as was repeatedly claimed and promised.

Nothing about us without us.

Farage has made noises to that effect before, so it's not new. But yes, it could be a factor. You can see how right wing this government is in how it reacts to losing votes: when it loses votes to its left, the reaction is always the same: left wing voters don't have legitimate concerns, we don't need to bother listening to them or offer more left wing policies to win them back. But when they lose votes to their right it's the opposite: these voters concerns are legitimate, we have to win them back by moving as far to the right as it takes. This is bizarre, as they're losing far more votes to their left than their right, and the hard right voters they're chasing will never vote for them anyway, but that's the Labour right for you.

Given their willingness to imitate Farage on immigration, it seems entirely possible that they could back down on the WFA and two child cap because they're scared of being outflanked by Reform. At this point they are being so intransigent on disability cuts that it seems the one thing that could make them drop it like a hot potato is Farage saying he would scrap the cuts. If that happened the disability cuts would probably be gone by lunchtime. Unfortunately Farage is just as determined to screw the sick and disabled as the Labour leadership so the chances of him opposing the cuts would seem to be non-existent. That said, he's such a cynical opportunist that if public opinion really takes against the cuts in a major way - and the polling shows the policy is already quite unpopular - then I wouldn't put it past him to reverse course on that as well and claim he'd always been opposed to disability cuts. 

"Again, desperately clutching at all possible straws and doing just what I thought they would try on next."

Yes, first they backed down on the WFA after saying they wouldn't, but insisted they'd still keep the two child cap and go ahead with the disability cuts.

Now they're backing down on the WFA and the two child cap, but insisting they're going ahead with the disability cuts. I doubt that will work - if anything, saying to their own MPs "we'll give some ground on pensioners and kids, just let us screw the sick and disabled" may antagnoise them even further and exacerbate the rebellion rather than quash it. Disability cuts was apparently one of the issues raised frequently on the doorstep during the local elections, so any Labour MP who votes for it now knows they run a significant risk of losing their seat.

Hi,

No doubt you are absolutely correct.

We all want this to be over, not at our expense though.  Give Them an inch and theyll take a mile, give them £50 and next time they mess up and there's no money left because of their actions, theyll be back for another £50 or more.  

We've had enough taken from us and been put through enough.  It's time to end this for good.  We need to make sure they know that we don't accept this now from this so called labour government and, we won't accept any more of it  from any future governments, from whichever party.

I hope you enjoy your weekend, take care 🙂

And if that doesn't succeed in quashing the rebellion, as I suspect it won't, what will he do then? Give up on the disability cuts as well? He should, but they seem determined to press ahead - and yet, if the Tories vote against the cuts, as now seems a distinct possibility, a Labour rebellion of 100+ MPs would likely be enough for the government to lose the vote. 

In a way, the best possible outcome might be if they press ahead with this tin-eared intransigence but lose the vote. The damage done to Starmer, Reeves and Kendall would be huge and their authority in trying to force through any alternative package of cuts would be severely weakened.