A final word

We'll be following up on all of this over the coming days and weeks and clarifying changes to the WCA as they become clearer. 

But having read the comments below, we'd just like to clarify that what the DWP appear to be saying is that if you are currently in the support group for ESA or the LCWRA group for UC then you will never be assessed again unless you report a change in your condition or you are suspected of fraud. 

The only exception to this is people who have LCWRA/support group status because of pregnancy or cancer treatment, as these are expected to be short-term.

If you are migrated from ESA to UC in the future, this won't make a difference because you are not reassessed as part of the migration process.

We don't know what affect the proposed abolition of the WCA might have on all of this. But that is a Conservative proposal which is an awfully long way from becoming a reality and it may well not survive first contact with an incoming government.  It's definitely not something to lose sleep over for a good few years.

In the meantime, after all the menace and rumour in the media over recent weeks, we hope this allows many of our readers to feel a little reassured tonight.


Most people with LCWRA will never face a WCA reassessment again

The DWP response to the WCA consultation says that most people who have been assessed as having limited capability for work-related activity will never have to be assessed again. 

The DWP say

. . . we will bring forward a new offer - a Chance to Work Guarantee for existing claimants on UC and ESA with LCWRA. This change will be effective from 2025, at the same time as WCA changes are introduced. This change will in effect abolish the WCA for the vast majority of this group, bringing forward a key element of our White Paper proposals and giving people the confidence to try work.

9. These changes will mean that almost all people who are currently assessed as having LCWRA will never face a WCA reassessment again. Reassessments will only take place under very limited circumstances, which are:

  • When a claimant reports a change of circumstances in their health condition;
  • If a claimant has been awarded LCWRA for pregnancy risk, or cancer treatment where the prognosis for recovery is expected to be short-term;
  • If a claimant has been declared as having LCWRA under the new risk provisions; and
  • In cases of suspected fraud.

10. For the overwhelming majority of existing UC claimants, this is a guarantee that they will not be reassessed if they try work, and it does not work out. ESA claimants undertaking permitted work will also not be reassessed. Therefore, for both groups, we will remove the barrier that trying work may mean they lose their LCWRA entitlement

 DWP response to the WCA consultation published

The DWP response to the WCA consultation has now been published.  They received 1,348 responses, which appear to have been overwhelmingly negative.

No changes will be made to:

Coping with social engagement

Continence


DWP say most existing claimants will not be affected

The DWP say in their press release that the new changes will not be introduced until 2025 and that most existing claimants will not be affected:

"These changes will not affect existing claimants whose circumstances remain the same, reflecting the need to ensure a continuity of service for them, and will mean that these claimants will not lose money as a result of the changes."

Elsewhere, they add:

  • Under these changes, most existing claimants on health benefits will not need to be re-assessed with a new Work Capability Assessment. Re-assessments will only take place under limited circumstances, which are:

    When a claimant reports a change of circumstances in their health condition;

    If a claimant has been awarded LCWRA for pregnancy risk, or cancer treatment where the prognosis for recovery is expected to be short-term;

    In cases of suspected fraud.

Changes to the substantial risk rule

In their consultation on WCA changes in September, the DWP suggested that the substantial risk rule could be changed as follows:

Alter the rule so that it would not apply where a person could take part in tailored or a minimal level of work preparation activity and/or where reasonable adjustments could be put in place to enable that person to engage with work preparation.

This appears to be what the DWP is now planning to do.


Getting about

The current points for 'Getting about' are shown below. These are to be reduced although we don't know what to yet:

15. Getting about

 15 (a) Cannot get to any place outside the claimant’s home with which the claimant is familiar.  15 points 

15 (b) Is unable to get to a specified place with which the claimant is familiar, without being accompanied by another person 9 points

15 (c) Is unable to get to a specified place with which the claimant is unfamiliar without being accompanied by another person.  6 points

 15 (d) None of the above apply.  0 points


The removed mobilising descriptors

It appears that the DWP plan to stop the following mobilising descriptors allowing claimants to be places in the support/LCWRA group.  These descriptors will still score 15 points for the purposes of limited capability for work, but will not allow access to the support/LCWRA group:

1.  Mobilising unaided by another person with or without a walking stick, manual wheelchair or other aid if such aid is normally, or could reasonably be, worn or used.

Cannot either:

(i)  mobilise more than 50 metres on level ground without stopping in order to avoid significant discomfort or exhaustion

or

(ii)  repeatedly mobilise 50 metres within a reasonable timescale because of significant discomfort or exhaustion.


 Changes to the WCA revealed  

A DWP press release has set out the changes they plan to make to the WCA:

  1. Remove the ‘Mobilising’ part of the assessment that currently places people into a group where no work preparation is required – this will reflect that many of the claimants with these issues in the modern world of work will be able to undertake some work or work preparation with the right support
  2. Amend the regulations that determine whether mental health issues are assessed as putting claimants at ‘Substantial Risk’ if they are required to undertake any level of work preparation - these amendments will realign the regulations with the original intention of applying only in exceptional circumstances, whilst still protecting and safeguarding the most vulnerable
  3. Reduce the points awarded for some of the Limited Capability for Work (LCW) ‘getting about’ descriptors, reflecting the rise of flexible and home working opportunities in modern workplaces.

Over 90% of people denied LCWRA will not move into work

Although the Chancellor announced today that there will be changes to the WCA, we don't know which of the changes set out in their consultation in September they have decided to adopt.

What we do know, however, thanks to the Office for Budget responsibility. is that the claims that the changes are to help people move into work are bogus.

The OBR has published its estimate of the changes to the incapacity caseload as a result of WCA reform.

By 2028/29 they estimate that there will be: 

315,000 fewer people in the UC LCWRA group

56,000 fewer in the ESA support group

Making a total of 371,000 fewer people who get incapacity benefits without having any work related conditions.

But at the same time, they estimate that as a result there will be:

290,000 more people on LCW UC 

51,000 more people in the ESA WRAG 

Making a total increase of 342,000 (possibly some rounding) who have conditions applied to their benefit.

 

 

So, the OBR are expecting around 29,000 people, just 8% of claimants who are denied LCWRA/support group, to actually move off benefits as a result.  The other 92% will stay on incapacity benefits but just be around £400 a month worse off and subject to sanctions.

Thanks to Tom Pollard for tweeting about this.


 

Half a million people to be offered mental health treatment

The chancellor says they will halve the flow of people signed off work with no work search requirements:

Over 180,000 more people will be helped through the Universal Support programme and nearly 500,000 people will be offered treatment for mental health conditions and employment support. 

Over the forecast period, the OBR judge these measures will more than halve the flow of people who are signed off work with no work search requirements.

At the same time we’ll provide a further £1.3 billion of funding to offer extra help to the 300,000 people who have been unemployed for over a year without any sickness or disability.

But we will ask for something in return.

If, after 18 months of intensive support, jobseekers have not found a job, we’ll roll out a programme requiring them to take part in mandatory work placements to increase their skills and improve their employability.

And if they choose not to engage with the work search process for six months, we will close their case and stop their benefits.

Taken together with the labour supply measures I have announced in the spring, the OBR say we will increase the number of people in work by around 200,000 at the end of the forecast period,  permanently increasing the size of the economy.


WCA to be 'reformed'

The chancellor confirmed that changes are to be made to the work capability assessment (WCA) and to the fit note process, though no further details were given about the precise changes to the WCA.

The Chancellor said:

Every year we sign off over 100,000 people onto benefits with no requirement to look for work, because of sickness or disability.

That waste of potential is wrong economically and wrong morally.

So, with the secretary of state for work and pensions, I announced our back to work plan. 

We will reform the fit note process so that treatment rather than time off becomes the default.

We will reform the work capability assessment to reflect greater flexibility and availability of homeworking after the pandemic.

And we’ll spend £1.3 billion over the next 5 years to help nearly 700,000 people with health conditions find jobs.


LCWRA element of Universal Credit (UC) from April 2024

We've calculated the 6.7% uprating for the LCWRA element of Universal Credit for next April as follows:

LCWRA element of UC up from £390.06 by £26.13 to £416.19


PIP rates from April 2024

We've calculated the 6.7% uprating for PIP for next April as follows:

Daily living standard rate up from £68.10 by £4.56 to £72.66

Daily living enhanced rate up from £101.75 by £6.82 to £108.57

Mobility standard rate up from £26.90 by £1.80 to £28.70

Mobility enhanced rate up from £71.00 by £4.76 to £75.76


Pensions triple lock maintained

 

The Chancellor announced that from April 24th "we will increase the full new state pension by 8.5% to £221.20 a week, worth up to £900 more a year."


Local Housing Allowance to be unfrozen

The Chancellor announced that he will "increase the Local Housing Allowance (LHA) to the 30th percentile of local market rents.  This will give 1.6 million households an average of £800 of support."


Benefits to be uprated by September CPI

Good news on uprating.  The chancellor has confirmed that in April 2024 benefits will be uprated by September's Consumer Prices Index (CPI) rate of inflation, which stood at 6.7%.  There had been speculation that benefits would be uprated by the lower October rate.


Autumn statement updates

The Chancellor delivers his Autumn statement at around 12.30pm on 22 November 2023.

Benefits and Work will be providing updates on this page on how the Autumn statement affects claimants, as information becomes available.

In the meantime, heavy hints are being dropped by the government about what may be in it.

Claimants in LCWRA may have to look for work from home

A number of media outlets are suggesting that claimants who are in the Limited Capability for Work-Related Activity (LCWRA) group will be required to look for work they can do at home or lose the LCWRA element, worth £4,680 a year. 

This is likely to be a follow up on the consultation on changes to the work capability assessment (WCA), which took place in September.

If this does go ahead, it is unlikely to happen before the next general election and so may be cancelled by an incoming government.

Cut in benefits uprating

Benefits are normally uprated in April by the Consumer Prices Index (CPI) rate for the previous September.

But there have been numerous suggestions that benefits may be uprated by the lower CPI rate for October 2023 of 4.7% rather than the September rate which was higher at  6.7%.

This may apply to UC and ESA but may not apply to PIP.

Back To Work Plan

We already know quite a lot about the ‘Back to Work’ plan which involves tougher sanctions and mandatory work placements for some UC claimants.  More details may be released as part of the Autumn statement.

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    naheegan · 5 months ago
    I have much heartfelt understanding for the people here who feel like they are at the end of their endurance. I too felt like that many times over the years. What is different now is that these changes, IF they do come to pass, will not happen for a while. Either way, don't give up, don't waste the time between then and now. Live life, support each other in friendship, and problem solving, and companionship. Remember every day that you matter- you, yes, You. You are loved and valued by friends and family. Don't let Tory cruelty rob your loved ones and friends of your presence in their lives. Don't let cruelty win by shortening your time, wasting your days in dread and fear, but live each day as fully as you can. 

    Any proposed changes would have to go through a process, one that takes time. DWP staff would have to be trained up to do it, and new staff hired after so many have left citing burnout and guilt for what their jobs required them to do. Adaptive equipment would have to be provided, a lot of gear! because disabled people don't have or are unable to afford computers and software, suitable desks and chairs and phones to WFH. That equipment is going to take a lot of money, and contract tenders and procurement, and more time. I think that all of it will be unworkable, tbh.

    Time will tell what happens, but use that time for living as fully as you can. Do it out of spite, if you wish!


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      The Dog mother · 5 months ago
      @naheegan Thank you for your words. Far too many who profess to be 'in the same boat' are busy trying one upmanship. 
      Kinds words do more than harsh.
      We do need to help each other, even if we can't physically do so we can help mentally to a degree.
      Lives on hold because of the worry. 
      Like we don't have enough to contend with. I wish more people had good hearts towards us. 
      But we live in a very unforgiving world where some find disability a stick to beat people further with.
      We have to 'hang in there'.
      Once again Thank you for your kindness. 

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    fibrofred · 5 months ago
    The Autumn Statement is basically going to be a 'Batter those on Benefits' plan or reversed Robin Hood tactics to pick on the weakest.  I would not be holding out any hope on Labour sprinkling any fairy dust when they inevitably win as I believe the Tories have made the snowballs that Labour already had prepared in the Freezer - The Tories just fired them first!  I do believe they will increase benefits by September's higher CPI figure though but this will be to sweeten the announcement of their cruel reform plans ahead.  
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      welshval · 5 months ago
      @fibrofred Agree I heard Liz Kendall on Sky yesterday and there was absolutely no difference between her and the Tories she buys into the whole plan  
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    Louise · 5 months ago
    This has me crying so much. I’ve been struggling to find work for a year because i’m dead. I rely on PIP and handouts from my family. I can’t turn the heating on or have a social life. 
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    Louisa · 5 months ago
    I think it's disgusting, to be honest, I was claiming UC living in London, I got a job and got fired because of my epilepsy (it took a turn for the worse with stress) I had to sign back on but I said to my "work coach" I really don't think I can commute as my seizures were getting more common - I was having them at train stations, she ignored me and said you have to commute up to an hour. This is when I decided I had to move back home and claim PIP instead, I can work from home but my work would be patchy with absences so phone calls would be hard, and it would be impossible to find a job. They've ruined my life and now they want to go through my bank accounts, I'm literally trapped.
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      Sarah · 5 months ago
      @Louisa The outcome of WCA seems to be highly dependent on which assessor you get, so it may be worth applying again and hope for a better assessor so you get the equivalent of ESA and no work coach.
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      denby · 5 months ago
      @Louisa Just sending you a hug Louisa. Epilepsy is so misunderstood. My OH has had it since childhood, he only got a job ever after his dad's friend took pity and was able to arrange for the co. that he worked for to give the youngster a job. Not many philanthropic managers around like that now.
      Have you tried calling the Epilepsy Action helpline to see if they can offer any help?
      Kind regards, Denby
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    Aw · 5 months ago
    I'm very worried about Women in mid-life like me, suicide rates are highest in mid-life for us and the prospect of 10-20 years of near destitution at best (destitution with sanctions) before reaching retirement age makes me feel like maybe I'm done. I've had MH problems all my life and I'm so freakin tired now. All I want is some peace and they seem determined to make sure I don't get any. I don't want my life to get harder, I don't want to get poorer. I've fought all my life to try and make things better for myself but all this makes me wonder if I might prefer to quit while I'm 'ahead'. I get ESA SG & PIP & I live in social housing. I might rather choose a better end for myself than to lose all that... I'm starting to feel at peace with it, and that's a pretty scary thought.
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      A EDWARDS · 5 months ago
      @Aw I am also in mid life on cont based esa support group and higher pip rate,I have agoraphobia, dysmotility and migraine almost daily,daily dizziness and vertigo often, I also have panic disorder,anxiety and a very bad depression,I had a nervous breakdown in May which I'm far from recovered from,I can't go out on my own and have panic attacks every time I go out with my husband ,I will walk away from esa if this happens because I can not work I will just have pip to live on with my husbands meagre wage of £312 a week we will have nothing left after paying the bills,there's nothing else I can do I don't want a fourth breakdown!! 3 is enough in 1 lifetime 
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      Vanessa · 5 months ago
      @Aw Yes I feel like suicide, I am so worried, can't see what's the point anymore I won't all this worry to go away
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      Lesley F. · 5 months ago
      @Aw I really feel for you. Big, big gentle e-hugs to you. There must surely be at least a tiny change for the better after the next election 🙏🤞🏻xx
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      george · 5 months ago
      @Aw I have to admit if not for my daughter I may or decided to leave this CONSTANT never ending torture of assesments , threatening of worse to come year in year out 😞 strength to all of you xxx
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      lesley · 5 months ago
      @Aw Dear Aw, I am coming up for 76 next month.  Never known anything but austerity. I lost my daughter to suicide in 2000, so please do not even consider it.  Please get some help and call Samaritans if you do feel suicidal.  I too live in council housing, have struggled most of my life.  Lost two partners, one of them my husband. Still got my son who does not live with me, but I always think of him and could not do anything to hurt him.  I get similar benefits to you, plus housing benefit, but am now a pensioner.  Still we are stigmatised. Don't give up it's what they want us to do.
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    Forest7980 · 5 months ago
    Over my working life I've worked down the pit ,to painting power lines in the air ,so I've worked with a lot of different people seen a lot of governments come and go ,but I've never seen or heard such evil ideas, from these so called mps in power at the moment I'm  ashamed to be from the UK.
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      KABTT · 5 months ago
      @Forest7980 This gov is cruel, out of touch and too rich to understand or care about ordinary folks. Don't let them get to you AW - stand up as together we are many. You've got lots to live for - don't let them push you down. We'll get our guides here and we'll have our day.  I'd love to take on Hunt at the despatch, I'm so refusing to lay down and die. 
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    H · 5 months ago
    Absolutely terrified. Will end up walking away from ESA, as I can't bear it all any longer, it's too horrific for words and I will try to live just on PIP and savings if I can until that runs out. Then I don't know what. Surely they just cannot get away with what they are proposing to do.
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      catoswyn · 5 months ago
      @H I understand H, it all sounds terrible. Don't give up what you are entitled to. They are hoping some of us do that. The new rules don't come in until 2025 and don't apply to current claimants. There is time for us to get advice for instance AND there will be a general election before the new rules even come in. Good luck!
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    Annie 55 · 5 months ago
    I tried to work from home but my employer wouldn't accommodate me......COVID comes along and the whole office could work from home......the jobs have to be available in the first place.
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    jlee · 5 months ago
    r hope Labour win the election.....
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      george · 5 months ago
      @Ella I don't think they support everything the Tory's do and even though I do not have faith in Keir starmer or a few more in the Labour party I do believe they could Possibly? Do some things for the country better ? There's no way I'm voting the DESPICABLE Tory's in again and I don't think the other choices have enough votes to get in so I will unenthusiastically vote labour 
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      Ella · 5 months ago
      @jlee
      Labour are just red Tories.
      They won't make any changes to the plans, they support it.
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    Angel · 5 months ago
    Can anyone help us I am scared
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      naheegan · 5 months ago
      @Rodney In the article above it says that it's those in the Limited Capability for Work-Related Activity (LCWRA) group. It's the LCWRA element, worth £4,680 a year -which they will lose if this proposal is made as an actual change. 
      If someone is only getting JSA, I don't think it applies to them until they transition to Universal Credit or ESA. 
      I welcome correction if I have this wrong. 
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      bob · 5 months ago
      @Rodney similar things, harsh sanctions, kicked off benefits, oh and forced to do "workfare" volunteering at poundland or something.
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      Rodney · 5 months ago
      @Angel where does those people on JOB SEEKERS allowance stand. we seem to hear more about people with disabities losing there money
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      The Dog mother · 5 months ago
      @Angel People are trying. Lots of charities are weighing in on it.
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    Sarah · 5 months ago
    Can anyone explain please? I only get PIP. Will this affect me or is it just other benefits that people get. It’s like a minefield trying to understand the whole thing. If anyone can explain I would be really grateful. Thank you 
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      Sarah · 5 months ago
      @James h James h
      Thank you for explaining this to me. Very grateful 
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      James h · 5 months ago
      @Sarah Good evening Sarah if it’s just pip then you will be ok no need to worry what the tories are proposing which doubt will happen anyway is in 2029 if you get universal credit also they gonna combine the 2 and theirs gonna be a new health element where you will be forced to go to interviews a bit like the work group on esa now 
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    Angel · 5 months ago
    So when disabled start dropping who do we blame and sue? I am beyond terrified my mental health has spiralled.
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    The Dog mother · 5 months ago
    The very fact they're even proposing this scandal is more than enough to send health issues spiralling. This has been creeping ever closer the past months, now the big bomb is about to drop we are still on tender hooks.
    I know many agencies have been in contact with Hunt ,or at least his office asking for a face to face meeting over all of this. Whether he bothers his behind even acknowledging them is another matter but at least he knows there's big opposition to bending us even further over a barrel of his making. 
    I can't even begin to say how terrified I am. I'd be happy with a job in a different universe where I was well. I do not see how one day you are told no possibility of working and with the stroke of a pen written in our blood you most certainly can work from home. No !! This is a non starter. They need to walk in the real world. Surely most people with a thinking brain sees how God awful the entire thing is. It's staring them in the face.
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      tintack · 5 months ago
      @The Dog mother
      The big bomb may be about to drop, but it can't explode unless they win the election. If they lose - and that is looking by far the most likely outcome - the bomb will be a dud.

      As for them "walking in the real world", forget it. They're mostly a bunch of overprivileged sociopaths who have never known anything remotely resembling hardship and are in no danger of ever being in such a position. Look at Cameron - inflicts austerity on the country, which has been linked to 300,000 excess deaths, gives us the clownshow of Brexit, and walks off stage whistling merrily. Then gets involved in a lobbying scandal. His punishment? Made a lord, brought back into government in a senior position, and hailed as a centre ground moderate. 

      If these people ever had to walk in the real world they wouldn't last five minutes - they would soon fall victim to the consequences of their own policies. Unfortunately their privileged position means they are completely insulated from those consequences. It's only the rest of the country that gets screwed and they only care about that to the extent that it might affect their hold on power.
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    Bart70 · 5 months ago
    Sadly I don’t believe that Labour will reverse any of these reforms that are being forced on us by Tories. Given the government has been pushing for a return to the office, where are all these work from home jobs coming from? This is going to be one of those times where people are going to be pushed into a corner, have their money taken off them and then end up either homeless and desperate or dead. All because some rich bloke thinks “it’s the right thing to do” this needs nipping in the bud before it kills and destroys lives!
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    Sarah · 5 months ago
    I only get pip and no other benefits. Will I lose my pip then? I don’t fully understand what’s going on. Sorry 
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      Natalie · 5 months ago
      @Sarah Hi Sarah I'm in the same boat, infact I'm in hospital now having physio. I read James post lt stated if it's just pip we will be ok? 
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    Carol K · 5 months ago
    The dying embers of a hateful bunch of people, trying desperately to regain their former popularity by publicising extreme policies. Don't worry about this because it most likely won't happen, unless something goes seriously wrong and Labour don't win. 
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      A EDWARDS · 5 months ago
      @Carol K Labour support it,they said they won't vote against it and it didn't go far enough!!
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    Foxwell · 5 months ago
    I think we need ways the law can be used against this Government or any Government that ignores human rights & medical facts! I know we get targeted and picked on as we are seen as an easy target but we have seen the Courts can work, we can challenge the vile thinking and cruelty that so many in Parliament think is acceptable! 

    Whenever the Government wants to make cuts it always attacks Sick and Disabled people, yet, it does next to nothing to curb an estimated £30 to £100 billion in tax avoidance by individuals and companies every year!

    Perhaps a mass lawsuit could be created to challenge the Government directly! 
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    Moss · 5 months ago
    I have feeling when labour comes into power next year, they will drop some of these benefits reforms from tories. I thought this autumn statements go straight into law (clearly not).  Tories only have months left in power, I can't see them in power again by 2025. They have really screwed up really badly.
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    Peed off to say the least · 5 months ago
    I used to be a carpenter an joiner, until c.o.p.d. kicked which has left me constantly breathless and on the verge of my vision becoming blurry as if I'm going to pass out when a coughing bowt hits. Constant pain in right hip for over 5 yrs an know starting in the left.
    I think if I get put back on a building site I may jump off the scaffold an hang myself. The constant pain discomfort an stresses of saying I may have to return to work is an absolute joke. What job would they want me to undertake from home. Call centre, very unprofessional if I have coughing bout over the phone not that I can hold a conversation for any length of time while being a heavy breather.
    And I don't fancy licking envelopes all day..........
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    lesley · 5 months ago
    Gonna cost them a fortune.  First of all people will have to have suitable computers plus suitable computer chairs.  Also risk assessments for disabled people working from home, especially anyone on a lot of medication or in a wheelchair or any mental health problem.  Plus fast broadband.  I have the cheapest broadband and the slowest, cannot upload any large files to it. Zoom useless on my computer, no camera.  Yeah, bring it on...... I don't think much of this will happen or if it does will take years. In my opinion it's just some media hype to satify the tory voters.
    Gizza job yozzer! Go on gizza job

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      welshval · 5 months ago
      @lesley Lesley you are assuming that they are serious about finding us suitable ways to work to make our lives better but I am afraid the real objective is to cut the extra money those in the support group receive, once it is cut we will be left to hang ,if you doubt this just consider their words about people being left to die which have been revealed by the covid enquiry
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      denby · 5 months ago
      @tintack Indeed tintack. I used to work with migrant families' teenagers in school. Not one family in 16 years were 'freeloaders', they all worked hard in places like A---n warehouses on nightshift, bars etc. There are thousands of job vacancies we don't have the healthy people to fill, what's the problem letting people who want to be here do those jobs? Politics, and only politics imho.
      Oh and btw most don't arrive by boat anyway, all that is just a smokescreen.
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      Moss · 5 months ago
      @lesley All of this is smokescreen from tories, I think this autumn statement will not see the light of day by winter next year. It is game over for tories, also they're trying to subsidise the rich (big mistake, especially when northerners gave you their votes) it will also be Hunt last time as a lawmaker/chancellor.
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      tintack · 5 months ago
      @lesley
      The election is now coming into view on the horizon, time is starting to run out and they're still miles behind in the polls. As a result they're now indulging the worst instincts of their base, so yes, this is definitely a desperate attempt to shore up their core vote. 

      It's not just benefits either: the revolting anti-immigrant and asylum seeker rhetoric has also been ramped up to unprecedented levels of extremity - note that Braverman wasn't sacked because of major policy differences, but only because she was defying what passes for dear Rishi's "authority". It's going to be like this until polling day - they will blame anyone and everyone but themselves for the shambles they've created. People on benefits, asylum seekers, "lefty lawyers", the BBC, the judiciary, the civil service, the unions, the Labour Party, the SNP, trans people - everyone will be to blame but them. 
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