A final word

We'll be following up on all of this over the coming days and weeks and clarifying changes to the WCA as they become clearer. 

But having read the comments below, we'd just like to clarify that what the DWP appear to be saying is that if you are currently in the support group for ESA or the LCWRA group for UC then you will never be assessed again unless you report a change in your condition or you are suspected of fraud. 

The only exception to this is people who have LCWRA/support group status because of pregnancy or cancer treatment, as these are expected to be short-term.

If you are migrated from ESA to UC in the future, this won't make a difference because you are not reassessed as part of the migration process.

We don't know what affect the proposed abolition of the WCA might have on all of this. But that is a Conservative proposal which is an awfully long way from becoming a reality and it may well not survive first contact with an incoming government.  It's definitely not something to lose sleep over for a good few years.

In the meantime, after all the menace and rumour in the media over recent weeks, we hope this allows many of our readers to feel a little reassured tonight.


Most people with LCWRA will never face a WCA reassessment again

The DWP response to the WCA consultation says that most people who have been assessed as having limited capability for work-related activity will never have to be assessed again. 

The DWP say

. . . we will bring forward a new offer - a Chance to Work Guarantee for existing claimants on UC and ESA with LCWRA. This change will be effective from 2025, at the same time as WCA changes are introduced. This change will in effect abolish the WCA for the vast majority of this group, bringing forward a key element of our White Paper proposals and giving people the confidence to try work.

9. These changes will mean that almost all people who are currently assessed as having LCWRA will never face a WCA reassessment again. Reassessments will only take place under very limited circumstances, which are:

  • When a claimant reports a change of circumstances in their health condition;
  • If a claimant has been awarded LCWRA for pregnancy risk, or cancer treatment where the prognosis for recovery is expected to be short-term;
  • If a claimant has been declared as having LCWRA under the new risk provisions; and
  • In cases of suspected fraud.

10. For the overwhelming majority of existing UC claimants, this is a guarantee that they will not be reassessed if they try work, and it does not work out. ESA claimants undertaking permitted work will also not be reassessed. Therefore, for both groups, we will remove the barrier that trying work may mean they lose their LCWRA entitlement

 DWP response to the WCA consultation published

The DWP response to the WCA consultation has now been published.  They received 1,348 responses, which appear to have been overwhelmingly negative.

No changes will be made to:

Coping with social engagement

Continence


DWP say most existing claimants will not be affected

The DWP say in their press release that the new changes will not be introduced until 2025 and that most existing claimants will not be affected:

"These changes will not affect existing claimants whose circumstances remain the same, reflecting the need to ensure a continuity of service for them, and will mean that these claimants will not lose money as a result of the changes."

Elsewhere, they add:

  • Under these changes, most existing claimants on health benefits will not need to be re-assessed with a new Work Capability Assessment. Re-assessments will only take place under limited circumstances, which are:

    When a claimant reports a change of circumstances in their health condition;

    If a claimant has been awarded LCWRA for pregnancy risk, or cancer treatment where the prognosis for recovery is expected to be short-term;

    In cases of suspected fraud.

Changes to the substantial risk rule

In their consultation on WCA changes in September, the DWP suggested that the substantial risk rule could be changed as follows:

Alter the rule so that it would not apply where a person could take part in tailored or a minimal level of work preparation activity and/or where reasonable adjustments could be put in place to enable that person to engage with work preparation.

This appears to be what the DWP is now planning to do.


Getting about

The current points for 'Getting about' are shown below. These are to be reduced although we don't know what to yet:

15. Getting about

 15 (a) Cannot get to any place outside the claimant’s home with which the claimant is familiar.  15 points 

15 (b) Is unable to get to a specified place with which the claimant is familiar, without being accompanied by another person 9 points

15 (c) Is unable to get to a specified place with which the claimant is unfamiliar without being accompanied by another person.  6 points

 15 (d) None of the above apply.  0 points


The removed mobilising descriptors

It appears that the DWP plan to stop the following mobilising descriptors allowing claimants to be places in the support/LCWRA group.  These descriptors will still score 15 points for the purposes of limited capability for work, but will not allow access to the support/LCWRA group:

1.  Mobilising unaided by another person with or without a walking stick, manual wheelchair or other aid if such aid is normally, or could reasonably be, worn or used.

Cannot either:

(i)  mobilise more than 50 metres on level ground without stopping in order to avoid significant discomfort or exhaustion

or

(ii)  repeatedly mobilise 50 metres within a reasonable timescale because of significant discomfort or exhaustion.


 Changes to the WCA revealed  

A DWP press release has set out the changes they plan to make to the WCA:

  1. Remove the ‘Mobilising’ part of the assessment that currently places people into a group where no work preparation is required – this will reflect that many of the claimants with these issues in the modern world of work will be able to undertake some work or work preparation with the right support
  2. Amend the regulations that determine whether mental health issues are assessed as putting claimants at ‘Substantial Risk’ if they are required to undertake any level of work preparation - these amendments will realign the regulations with the original intention of applying only in exceptional circumstances, whilst still protecting and safeguarding the most vulnerable
  3. Reduce the points awarded for some of the Limited Capability for Work (LCW) ‘getting about’ descriptors, reflecting the rise of flexible and home working opportunities in modern workplaces.

Over 90% of people denied LCWRA will not move into work

Although the Chancellor announced today that there will be changes to the WCA, we don't know which of the changes set out in their consultation in September they have decided to adopt.

What we do know, however, thanks to the Office for Budget responsibility. is that the claims that the changes are to help people move into work are bogus.

The OBR has published its estimate of the changes to the incapacity caseload as a result of WCA reform.

By 2028/29 they estimate that there will be: 

315,000 fewer people in the UC LCWRA group

56,000 fewer in the ESA support group

Making a total of 371,000 fewer people who get incapacity benefits without having any work related conditions.

But at the same time, they estimate that as a result there will be:

290,000 more people on LCW UC 

51,000 more people in the ESA WRAG 

Making a total increase of 342,000 (possibly some rounding) who have conditions applied to their benefit.

 

 

So, the OBR are expecting around 29,000 people, just 8% of claimants who are denied LCWRA/support group, to actually move off benefits as a result.  The other 92% will stay on incapacity benefits but just be around £400 a month worse off and subject to sanctions.

Thanks to Tom Pollard for tweeting about this.


 

Half a million people to be offered mental health treatment

The chancellor says they will halve the flow of people signed off work with no work search requirements:

Over 180,000 more people will be helped through the Universal Support programme and nearly 500,000 people will be offered treatment for mental health conditions and employment support. 

Over the forecast period, the OBR judge these measures will more than halve the flow of people who are signed off work with no work search requirements.

At the same time we’ll provide a further £1.3 billion of funding to offer extra help to the 300,000 people who have been unemployed for over a year without any sickness or disability.

But we will ask for something in return.

If, after 18 months of intensive support, jobseekers have not found a job, we’ll roll out a programme requiring them to take part in mandatory work placements to increase their skills and improve their employability.

And if they choose not to engage with the work search process for six months, we will close their case and stop their benefits.

Taken together with the labour supply measures I have announced in the spring, the OBR say we will increase the number of people in work by around 200,000 at the end of the forecast period,  permanently increasing the size of the economy.


WCA to be 'reformed'

The chancellor confirmed that changes are to be made to the work capability assessment (WCA) and to the fit note process, though no further details were given about the precise changes to the WCA.

The Chancellor said:

Every year we sign off over 100,000 people onto benefits with no requirement to look for work, because of sickness or disability.

That waste of potential is wrong economically and wrong morally.

So, with the secretary of state for work and pensions, I announced our back to work plan. 

We will reform the fit note process so that treatment rather than time off becomes the default.

We will reform the work capability assessment to reflect greater flexibility and availability of homeworking after the pandemic.

And we’ll spend £1.3 billion over the next 5 years to help nearly 700,000 people with health conditions find jobs.


LCWRA element of Universal Credit (UC) from April 2024

We've calculated the 6.7% uprating for the LCWRA element of Universal Credit for next April as follows:

LCWRA element of UC up from £390.06 by £26.13 to £416.19


PIP rates from April 2024

We've calculated the 6.7% uprating for PIP for next April as follows:

Daily living standard rate up from £68.10 by £4.56 to £72.66

Daily living enhanced rate up from £101.75 by £6.82 to £108.57

Mobility standard rate up from £26.90 by £1.80 to £28.70

Mobility enhanced rate up from £71.00 by £4.76 to £75.76


Pensions triple lock maintained

 

The Chancellor announced that from April 24th "we will increase the full new state pension by 8.5% to £221.20 a week, worth up to £900 more a year."


Local Housing Allowance to be unfrozen

The Chancellor announced that he will "increase the Local Housing Allowance (LHA) to the 30th percentile of local market rents.  This will give 1.6 million households an average of £800 of support."


Benefits to be uprated by September CPI

Good news on uprating.  The chancellor has confirmed that in April 2024 benefits will be uprated by September's Consumer Prices Index (CPI) rate of inflation, which stood at 6.7%.  There had been speculation that benefits would be uprated by the lower October rate.


Autumn statement updates

The Chancellor delivers his Autumn statement at around 12.30pm on 22 November 2023.

Benefits and Work will be providing updates on this page on how the Autumn statement affects claimants, as information becomes available.

In the meantime, heavy hints are being dropped by the government about what may be in it.

Claimants in LCWRA may have to look for work from home

A number of media outlets are suggesting that claimants who are in the Limited Capability for Work-Related Activity (LCWRA) group will be required to look for work they can do at home or lose the LCWRA element, worth £4,680 a year. 

This is likely to be a follow up on the consultation on changes to the work capability assessment (WCA), which took place in September.

If this does go ahead, it is unlikely to happen before the next general election and so may be cancelled by an incoming government.

Cut in benefits uprating

Benefits are normally uprated in April by the Consumer Prices Index (CPI) rate for the previous September.

But there have been numerous suggestions that benefits may be uprated by the lower CPI rate for October 2023 of 4.7% rather than the September rate which was higher at  6.7%.

This may apply to UC and ESA but may not apply to PIP.

Back To Work Plan

We already know quite a lot about the ‘Back to Work’ plan which involves tougher sanctions and mandatory work placements for some UC claimants.  More details may be released as part of the Autumn statement.

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    M · 5 months ago
    I'm so confused by all of this. I'm on ESA in the WRAG group but should have been in the Support Group. Does this mean I'll be at risk of sanctions or losing my ESA if I don't find work?
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    O · 5 months ago
    Thank God  for the  great people at Benefits and Work .
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    Jay · 5 months ago
    While it seems those currently in the ESA SG or UC LCWRA groups will not be impacted by this. They will some time after 2025 be reassessed under the new WCA. So by 2028-29, the LCWRA group will have 371,000 fewer claimants.
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      Aw · 5 months ago
      @Jay That's why it so important to vote the Tories out in the next GE, then that will give the disability charities time to lobby Labour to get them to change this insanely dangerous plan.
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    Eyeball · 5 months ago
    I understand the bit about no more WCA, but I don’t understand what that means for people with a disability who are signed off work. Can ‘benefits and work’ explain - will they be forced to do something to carry on getting the financial support please?
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      Angie 12 · 5 months ago
      @MrFibro I would love to see a report showing how much the WCA have actually saved, in comparison to how much those assessors and decision makers and appeal Judges have cost, since their introduction. 
      Some of those assessors boasted of making absolute fortunes a month, just to belittle sick people.
      The old system worked well enough as it was, by letting independent Doctors assess the disabled, at their local job centre, using their GP's patients medical records to help their assessment decision.
      If anyone knew if the patient was sick or not, it was their GP's who sees them regularly. But, they refused to take their advice.
      I know that the whole shambles, has cost much more than it saved, by creating thousands of jobs, for those none medical assessors, to make sick people feel even more useless and guilty for needing help to survive with life limiting illnesses.
      I have been forced to go to appeal, five times in 12 years. The last time, I was so traumatised by being bombarded with questions  in court, for an hour and a half, I broke down and sobbed, when I came out of the court.
      The DWP assessor, who had been shot down in flames by the Judges, came up to me and said, in a threatening manner, " Enjoy your back pay, because you won't get it again." While my son was trying to calm me down. 
      I swore then, to never go to tribunal again. Nobody gets to make me feel like that, for being ill.
      The DAP are more interested in demonizing the sick, than getting the under 30'S, who have not yet worked a day in their life into work.
      Why do they leave them alone but not the sick.

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      MrFibro · 5 months ago
      @Eyeball Eyeball,

      It look like these assessors wont be having the holidays, or having new extensions built on their homes on the backs of sick/ ill/ disabled people.  They must be gutted over the autumn statement.
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      The Dog Mother · 5 months ago
      @Eyeball It says the proposals,if brought in, should start around 2025 and will be new claiments only.. unless I've read that wrong. I'm almost delirious reading and re reading it over and over to try to get the key points into my foggy brain. 
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      Chris · 5 months ago
      @Eyeball @eyeball at some point it would have to involve a work focused interview if you are in the support group whether that would be mandatory or not is yet to be seen?from reading the Dwp press release out yesterday it says all support is voluntary I mean trying a part time job with no more wca is not bad but like you just said what would happen if you just  said “no”
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      Eyeball · 5 months ago
      @Eyeball And are the WCA really never going to happen again, or won’t happen again once new proposals come into place in 2025 please?
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    DWP ARE EVIL · 5 months ago
    It says ''we are considering whether to amend the LCWRA substantial risk definition to reflect that this would not apply where a person could take part in tailored or a minimal level of work preparation activity and/or where reasonable adjustments could be put in place to enable that person to engage with work preparation''

    Some of us are in Support group for substantial risk to mental health. So does this mean we would also be hunted down and forced to undergo work related activity? 
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      Tom · 5 months ago
      @MrFibro DWP did not expect to see a bigger proportion of claimants placed in SG than WRAG when WCA programme started. Initially at the beginning,  a high proportion was FFW, or placed in WRAG. But then the tide changed in the past decade thanks to success rate in tribunals in favour of the claimants and in the 5 years before COVID pandemic was hit, it has been consistently 55-65% success rate with the majority placed in SG. 
      Now the Tories are attempting to change policy to make it harder to stay in SG without the need to find work. This will no doubt be challenged through the courts. 
      The main reason for the rise number of people/ change of policy on SG is because 
      1) Additional Long COVID claimants 
      2) Increasingly aging population
      Govt want to reduce/discourage people recieving welfare because of:






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      Dennis · 5 months ago
      @MrFibro It's about time , work from home 
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      MrFibro · 5 months ago
      @DWP ARE EVIL dwp are evil,

      The object of being into the SG is so that one doesn't have to undertake any for of work related activity!!!!!!!!!

      Well now all the goal posts have suddenly changed again.
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    A · 5 months ago
    What rather worries me is the Labour that haven't said anything meaningful with regard to the so-called welfare reform of the Tories, other than empty words that have only grammatical function and no meaning in themselves, as usual. For instance, Liz Kendall, Shadow work and pensions secretary, said this, which is not much different from what the Tories are saying:

     "The Labour government would treat health and work as two sides of the same coin to help tackle the growing tide of economic inactivity, to make sure that everyone who can work, does, as it was the best route out of poverty".

    To me, the only difference between the Tories and Labour in this regard is the way they formulate their wordings and nothing else.

    Although I'm a Labour voter, I prefer the Tories in this respect for their clarity. The Labour under the dictatorship of Keir Starmer is another devil, if not even worse.

    The current labour have nothing to be voted for; hence, I won't vote for them. But this doesn't mean I'll vote for the the Cons. They're two devils and neither of them is less nastier than the other - the two faces of the same devil.
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    Grim Reaper is back. · 5 months ago
    Actually ? where the hell is the minister for Disability,Inclusion and Law ? where are Disabilty Rights UK ? quiet as mice. We need urgent dialogue via The Universal Declaration n Human Rights.This is Illegal People,it is creating barriers,they in DWP are unfit to decide our illness,what is going to happen if folk die ? just like Atos,swept under the carpet.We need an outspoken Legal Rights Lawyer.So if any charities are doing their real jobs,these issues will destroy human life.Imagine being on medication to keep you alive or just getting by,it will kill us.There is no happy endings,as a bloke who unlike they Tory S**um imagine them doing my job,covered in machine oils ? Simple to say we need a solid speaker from Disability Groups.
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    ES · 5 months ago
    Clearly there are going to be many, many people who are too disabled and/or sick, to work from home, even though the system suddenly decides that they can do so.

    It seems to me also that the mechanics of doing so have been completely ignored in the Govt discussion within the DWP (ie the Consultation outcome paperwork which I have just read). They seem to assume that all disabled people live in housing that is also fit to work in. The truth is that much housing today, is not even fit to live in, let alone to work in, especially for those who are the most vulnerable, and with the least resources.

    They may be in a shared house, with noise blasting through their walls. They may be living in one room with not enough space for a desk as well as a bed. They may be living in one room with other people. They may be, (as one relative is) living over a very noisy car park which faces South, having a constant dilemma each summer on how to keep cool, and how to also cope with the barrage of noise outside while dealing with severe mental illness. They may be living with an abusive person and cannot escape, or concentrate to work in such a situation. 

    And yet anyone who is non disabled, at least has the right and ability to work outside the home, to get away from the pressure that may be in their home space. Under these new rules, there will be disabled people who will already be living under pressure in their living spaces, who have no way of escaping from them, and they will be made to suffer more under the new rules by having to work as well. 
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      Mark · 5 months ago
      @ES I feel that every MP should have to spend a month living on benefits, in the type of accommodation that you just said about.  Personally I've been in some horrible places over the years, and the rental market is a lot worse these days.  I'm fortunate enough to live in a decent place at the moment, but am well aware that the rug can be pulled out from underneath me at any time.  I've had landlords just decide to sell up, and I've frantically had to search for somewhere.  I was literally reduced to tears last time as I liked my flat, then suddenly I was facing homelessness in 2 months time. 

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    Rosie · 5 months ago
    "nearly 500,000 people will be offered treatment for mental health conditions". In my experience it takes months (and sometimes years) to get any therapy for mental health conditions, and when you get it, it is time-limited (unlike treatment for clinical health conditions where you get treatment until you either get better or die). Where are all these extra mental health professionals going to come from? The ONLY treatment you can get straight away is medication, which might mask your problems but does little to help.  THIS STATEMENT MAKES ME SO ANGRY!!!! 
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      Bob · 5 months ago
      @Dennis Some people are to ill to work mental illness don't always get better with work been there done it made me more ill 
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      Dennis · 5 months ago
      @Rosie Positive mental attitude is what you need , and also going to work is good and will help with mental illness 
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      Mark · 5 months ago
      @Rosie I've had to do CBT 3 times, and it was useless.  I've asked to see a psychologist, they just referred me back to CBT.  It's crap, I'd love to get better but honestly don't know how. 
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      Aw · 5 months ago
      @Rosie Absolutely, and for complex, moderate & severe MH some people need years of therapy & some of us need support for the rest of our lives and we still can't work! I've been in therapy for 20 years and still need a lot of help. Six weeks of CBT delivered by AI is not going to help anyone.
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      Heremy Junt · 5 months ago
      @Rosie I hear they will add additional support to the mental health issues caused by Tory cruelty 
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    Evil DWP · 5 months ago
    I pray to god for all these 650 MPs become severe disabled! Sod them all.
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      Mark · 5 months ago
      @Evil DWP Yeah, it's the only way they'd understand what we go through.  They'd have to prove their condition, get turned down and deemed fit for work, have to do a mandatory reconsideration and carefully point out all their conditions that were missed, get turned down again, then have to fight it in court.  Then have the worry that their money could be stopped any time if DWP decides their condition might have improved, or have to be reassessed, get turned down for rentals because of their income, read numerous media articles that call them scroungers etc.  

      It's not a fun life, and our government seem to creatively find ways to make it worse. 
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      Another ill bloke · 5 months ago
      @Evil DWP Good to hear someone peeved with Historic Abuse Of Disabled Rights.y
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    Carol K · 5 months ago
    I'm still confused. Are all reassessments now stopped for all existing claimants on ESA SG?
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      MrFibro · 5 months ago
      @Carol K CAROL K,
      Hi no it's not happening yet, it's just been announced.  Will come into effect some time in future, but not as an immediate effect, so i understand.
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    PJ · 5 months ago
    It's like going back to Victorian times, when the government of the day expected the old and disabled to work. They'll be wanting us to make match sticks next.
    I feel confident that this government will be out next year, hopefully the next government will stop all this nonsense.
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    Holly · 5 months ago
    Thank you benefits and work all that you do
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    CC · 5 months ago
    If I understand the response correctly, existing people on LCWRA will now get reassessed unless specific circumstances which will mean these changes only affect those currently on LCW or new claimants after 2025, it could have been far far worse.  The provisions for allowing work to be attempted without risk of losing LCWRA status is not unreasonable. 

    But looking at this news article they might be adding a look for jobs from home requirement for people on LCWRA, so all is not clear yet?
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      Aw · 5 months ago
      @CC Yes, the Guardian is still reporting that they are going to make people with mental illness work from home or lose their premium. Given the only people who have a premium are those currently in the LCWRA then logic suggests they still plan to target us. Unless someone at the Guardian is mistaken.
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      Jay · 5 months ago
      @CC As always the devil is in the detail. Seems those currently in SG/LCWRA will be made to look for work or face being reassessed. That being said, seems the idea is, sometime after 2025, to reassess everyone under the new WCA so to reduce the claimants rate by 371,000.
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    Holly · 5 months ago
    Thank you benefits and work all that you do
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    Seeking help · 5 months ago
    Hello all 
    Please help. I do not know what the acronyms being used in the comments etc mean. My mental agility has declined. 
    I lost my job in 2021 having worked full time plus part time jobs on top of full time when I was a bit younger. I’m mid to late 50’s now. 
    I receive contribution based ESA and am in the support group plus in receipt of pip from before then at standard rate for care and mobility and pip was recently reviewed and continued. 
    What do these changes mean for me? Also is support group allocation reviewed?
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    Tom · 5 months ago
    It would appear I am one of those affected. I am in the support group as I meet the descriptors for mobilising. Been through three tribunals over the past decade and went through sheer hell. I won 3/3, DWP just keep insisting I need to attend WCA/ Tribunal when it is very clear with strong medical evidence, I shouldn’t have to go through it - even with no change of circumstances. A DWP representative apologised on 2 out 3 tribunals I’ve attended. The third was via zoom call.

    And now the govt is proposing to removing it, that’s outrageous. And proposing to remedy the regulations regarding MH. It must not happen. To work remotely from home is a great novel idea but it doesn’t apply in real practice. More people now are WFH on some days but most already have respective demanding paying jobs. The govt are deluded from actual reality. 

    It will not end well. I dislike lots of chatter among the media about benefit clampdown, because the fact is, the WCA have been in place for 15 years after that ‘clampdown’ and interestingly, the number of people on ESA have been relatively stable of around 1.9 -2 million after an initial decrease of 2.5M mark at the beginning of the cascade of not for purpose 

    So to see the Tories saying it’s a ‘national scandal’ many are not in work, when that has been the case for many years with the WCA in place, it’s regarded the toughest in the world to pass is an absolute insult and a joke.

    Most if not all current ill/disabled already have been through the WCA system. and it cost billions over a set number of years. Hundred of millions have been spent on appeals and yet the success rate in favour of claimants remain consistent approximately 60-65% for a substantial amount of time before the covid pandemic. 
    to reduce welfare spending based on their flawed policy, disregarding our rights
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    Mb · 5 months ago
    I guess the race is on to reassess as many of us before 2025 as possible then. I haven't had a WCA since 2018 so I'm expecting it every time the letterbox goes. I bet it comes at the end of next year, finds me ffw & puts any appeal I make into the new rules. Under the new rules I won't be eligible for the SG I've been in since 2009. Not every severe mental illness has psychosis as a symptom yet many of us still die or self harm. They have no idea what they're talking about. I won't feel safe till these plans are scrapped.
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      MrFibro · 5 months ago
      @Evil DWP evil dwp,

      half of the NHS will be queuing up to get these assessing jobs to earn tonnes of bonuses at the expense of claimants health, or they will do it as a second job.
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      MrFibro · 5 months ago
      @Mb MB,
       exactly,  DWP will shell out hundreds of millions of pounds to employ more people via their 3rd party outsourced contractors. ie capita, atos ( whoever they are now) etc.

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      Heremy Junt · 5 months ago
      @Evil DWP Not so
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      Evil DWP · 5 months ago
      @Mb Yes course they will cos they are Tories! everyones will be reassessment quickly before 2025 and then found fit for work!
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      The Dog mother · 5 months ago
      @Mb I don't think so Mb, trying to read between the lines, you are on the current system so I can't see the upcoming changes applying. As to the new system applies to those newly claiming. 
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    fibrofred · 5 months ago
    This is actually the worst news for so many people who get ESA based on mobility.  My sister was medically retired after trying everything to stay in the job she loved and was employed in for 30 years.  She reduced her hours, changed her working pattern & tried hybrid working.  Her health suffered greatly knowing that she could no longer be relied upon as her cognitive issues were so bad.  The pain she has daily means she is neither comfortable sitting or standing.  She currently only meets the New Style ESA LCWRA on the mobility category alone.  Now the mobility category is going to be removed so she will no longer get this.  She is terrified and so am I as I think she has just lost the will to live.
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      just cause · 5 months ago
      @fibrofred Hi id Just say the the effect of losing her mobility has had a prononced knock on effect on most or all other descriptors. Gl.
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    Angel · 5 months ago
    Doesn’t effect those ill disabled already on it but what about those ill disabled claiming anew? Targeting discrimination 
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