Liz Kendall has offered three concessions to Labour rebels unhappy about the Green Paper cuts.  But will they be enough to sway a significant number of dismayed MPs?

The concessions

The Guardian reports that Kendall has offered the following to Labour rebels:

13 weeks payment of PIP for claimants who lose their award because of the 4-point rule.

The “right to work” scheme for those on health and disability benefits will be introduced at the same time as the bill.

“Non-negotiable” protections for the most vulnerable benefits recipients will be on the face of the new bill.

13 week payment

Usually, claimants who lose their award because of rule changes by the DWP might expect to receive payments for 4 weeks, after being found to be no longer eligible. 

13 weeks is more “generous” but of little practical use, as few claimants will be able to apply for other benefits or secure employment in that time.  As a concession, it seems ineffective.

Right to work scheme

The right to work scheme appears to be a reference to the idea outlined at para 126 of the Pathways to Work Green Paper that claimants can try work without worrying about losing benefits:

“. . . we will introduce legislation that guarantees that trying work will not be considered a relevant change of circumstance that will trigger a PIP award review or WCA reassessment. We will make these changes as soon as possible, so that they apply in the current system and as well as in the reformed system.”

It appears that this will be introduced in separate legislation to the bill imposing the 4-point PIP rule, but at the same time. 

This is a move that is likely to be welcomed by most MPs. But as the government had already said they would make this change “as soon as possible” it is, at best, a very minor concession.

Protections for the most vulnerable

According to the Guardian, Kendall has said there will be “non-negotiable” protections for the most vulnerable benefits recipients on the face of the welfare reform bill, when it is published next week.

Para 42 of the Green Paper explains that:

“. . . for those receiving the new reduced UC health element after April 2026, we are proposing that those with the most severe, life-long health conditions, who have no prospect of improvement and will never be able to work, will see their incomes protected through an additional premium.[  We will also guarantee that for both new and existing claims, those in this group will not need to be reassessed in future”

(Note: the additional premium will not be payable to current claimants as they will not have their LCWRA element reduced in the same way as new claimants from April 2026).  This very probably – though not definitely - means that the DWP severe conditions criteria are to be put into law. 

These are guidelines already used by the DWP to reduce the need for reassessment of universal credit claimants who have been found to have limited capability for work related activity (LCWRA) and whose condition will not improve.

How the severe conditions criteria work

A clamant has to meet one of the LCWRA criteria.  You can find a list of the criteria here.

In addition, all of the following criteria need to be met:

The level of function would always meet LCWRA.  So, conditions that vary in severity may not meet this requirement.

It must be a lifelong condition, once diagnosed.   So, conditions which might be cured by transplant/ surgery/treatments or conditions which might resolve will not meet this requirement. This should be based on currently available treatment on the NHS.

No realistic prospect of recovery of function.  So, for example, a person within the first 12 months following a significant stroke may recover function during rehabilitation, and would thus probably not be eligible.

Unambiguous condition. A recognised medical diagnosis must have been made.

If a claimant meets all these criteria they will be classed as having a severe, lifelong health condition and will not be subject to reassessment.

You can find further details of the severe conditions criteria in the WCA Handbook.

However, this provision was already set out in the Green Paper and due to be introduced by April 2026, in any case.  So it seems to be less of a concession and more of an earlier inclusion in the legislation than had been planned.

Money Bill

Putting this concession “on the face of the bill” may have one important effect, however. Elsewhere, we have discussed the possibility that Labour will seek to make its bill a money bill, meaning it cannot be altered by the House of Lords.

However, if the clearly non-financial severe conditions criteria are put in the bill, this would seem to make it less likely that this would be an option for Labour.

Will these concessions be enough?

None of these concessions affect the main issue that Labour rebels are unhappy about, the removal of the standard rate of the daily living component of PIP from hundreds of thousands of claimants.

So, it seems unlikely that many will be swayed by what are fairly token offers, especially as two of them were to be introduced anyway.

However, Kendall appears to have confirmed that the controversial bill will be published next week and so the first vote is likely to take place at the beginning of July, come what may.  (There’s more on how the bill will progress here).

So, we won’t have long to wait before we find out.

In the meantime, it might be worth letting your MP know whether these concessions will make a significant difference to your own circumstances, because it is now all about the battle for the support of potentially rebellious MPs.

As Guardian columnist Francis Ryan pointed out: “If you see briefings like this in the coming days and maybe think “I’ve heard this before”, remember that Kendall is not trying to inform the worried public - she’s trying to woo rebellious backbencher. That’s what the next few weeks are about for ministers.”

And for claimants and campaigners too.

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    · 6 hours ago
    People must be scared I get it even if I don't reply to comments but keep hope don't let the media or government steal it something will give in the end .
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    · 7 hours ago
    It is an ABSOLUTE INSULT!  None of this even begins to address the unfairness of these cruel, proposals!

    It is one deployment of tactic after another to try persuade those MP's in opposition to the cuts to sway them to back these HARMFUL NOT FIT FOR PURPOSE reforms! 

    Most of  us do have conditions that will NOT improve that has already DAMN WELL given to them with the extent of evidence we have to damn well produce.

    ATROCIOUS and it should NEVER be a damn money bill this is where I hope this will FAIL to be passed. This 4 ppint rule is also way out of line because they seldom even when it should be awarded are awarded the full points of any descriptor.

    Right NOW I am so ANGRY with what they are inflicting on those of us being migrated across from ESA to UC even those of us in the support group over their damn identification checks the risk of harm because  of their demands don't have a damn passport because physically too ill to go away on holiday. Does that in itself NOT speak VOLUMES and how my banking is done due to disabilities under the Equality Act 2010 reasonable adjustments my bank provides the support for that for vulnerable customers but the DWP UNABLE to do so.

    My banking is done for me by my bank as such bank sort code and account number NOT printed on my bank debit card! Have vulnerable adult service for my banking needs So demand a paper copy of bank statement for sort code and account number NOT our fault the DWP have NOT employed enough staff to cope with ramping up of all ESA people to be moved across to UC by the end of the year. Therefore, they are allegedly struggling with that let alone how they are going to cope when there are NOT enough work coaches employed to deal.

    Whichever way you turn whether by CAB or 'on-line claims there are pitfuls and downright contravention of the Equality Act 2010 and reasonable adjustments so I dread to think if this bill is passed how dire it is going to be with all the se alleged work coaches to do what with us? 

    Can't run the migration process with efficacy let alone what they state is yet to come with their damn reforms. 

    That should speak volumes to them I dread to think what happens if this gets passed. Where I live the job centres do NOT have enough staff to deal with the migration from ESA to UC and are putting people at  risk to get the migration claims through. LET alone their demands on us if these reforms go through  

    Certain MP's do NOT reply I am sick of mine in the area where I live and to be honest sick of all health professionals who agree with these proposals because they are stretched SO NO none of what they damn well state they now will implement to soften their proposals will be achievable do they even KNOW how long NHS waiting lists are? That is if your conditions can be cured! 

    It is EVIL and WRONG on every level. Do they et that as long as I live actually live in the real world? Oh no course they don't they even have to have special seats to a concert given to them I will NEVER forget that malarkey as long as I breathe Well we ALL now NEED damn special seats, wheelchairs and every other damn piece of equipment that disabilities render us to be reliant upon so I wonder if we all said we need special seats to a concert they would understand that!

    As time goes on I am getting angrier and angrier and in turn that is making ALL of my conditions worse and indeed mental health. 

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    · 7 hours ago
    My plan is to have some "time off" from this over the weekend, not least because I want to get some work done on the bestseller I need to write to counteract the cuts.  But I'll leave you with an open letter to Kendall that I wrote last night that I thought might take off on X.  It might be amusing to some of you!  (If you can't get people to take notice, go for jokes instead!)

    Dear Liz,

    You don’t mind me calling you “Liz,” do you? It’s just that we’ve got to know so much of your loving, caring personality over the last few months, that it feels fitting that we use first names at this stage.

    The Guardian today (it’s a left-leaning newspaper, so you probably don’t read it) is reporting that you might be making a “concession” in the bill being introduced in the Commons in which you are going to ruin hundreds of thousands of disabled people’s lives. You know the one.

    Apparently – and this is just genius – in exchange for us ultimately losing at least £8400 a year (through loss of PIP and then loss of LCWRA UC) you’re proposing we’re allowed to keep PIP for 13 whole weeks after we lose it. I’ve got to hand it to you. I didn’t see that one coming.

    That is the political equivalent of telling someone they haven’t won the car, but at least they still get a Blankety Blank chequebook and pen – and should be bloody thankful for it.

    And still, after all this time, you’re telling everyone that changing PIP eligibility rules is all about getting people into work. As you know, PIP isn’t an out of work benefit, so perhaps you could explain how cutting PIP affects work chances? In fact, it’s going to STOP people going to work, because they will no longer afford the extra costs that working as a disabled person entails.

    But you already know this.
    Something doesn’t come true just because you keep telling the same lie.

    Your eligibility changes will affect close to 1 million people, and yet the DWP’s own job search website tells us there are only 119,000 jobs available. And only 17,000 of those are with disability confident employers. So, please, Liz, tell us how all this adds up?

    I have been through the green paper many times, and I still have no idea how all of this is going to work in practice. Just because you stop us getting PIP and/or LCWRA doesn’t make us fit for work. We’re not going to get out of bed with no pain or mobility issues or whatever condition affects us.

    So, perhaps you can clear up a few things?

    What about those of us who can’t work but don’t get the right number of PIP points to stay on LCWRA? Are we going to be sanctioned for not working?

    The green paper has no answer to that.
    Have you even thought about it yet?

    And if we have fit note after fit note from the doctor for a condition that is never going to get better, surely that means we should be on LCWRA anyway, as that’s what it is for?

    What about those of us on LCWRA who currently do a few hours of work a week as part of the work allowance? Is the work allowance going to be taken away as we’re no longer going to be in the LCWRA group, thus making us even worse off?

    I’m in constant pain from the time I get up until the time I go to bed. For much of the day my brain is fuzzy due to medication. My stomach has a life of its own. And I’m awake for no more than 12 hours a day. If I do the least exertion one day, I then can’t do anything for the next two or three.

    So, Liz, what kind of job did you have in mind for someone like me? I was thinking one as a bouncer would work well. Or how about a trapeze artist?

    And if you’re removing £8400 a year of my income, how exactly do you expect me to claw that back from what could be, at most, a part-time job? If I’m losing £8400 a year, I’m going to need to earn £17,000 a year to get that back due to the taper on earnings on universal credit if you’re no longer in the LCWRA group. So you want people to go to work and still not be as well off as they were to start with.

    What happened to “making work pay?”

    Oh wait, you haven’t thought about that yet either, have you?

    In other words, you are removing half of our total income (in some cases more) knowing full well that any work we do would not make up that amount.

    That’s not reform, Liz.
    It’s f***ing evil.

    And, while we’re on the subject of absurdities in your plans, perhaps you could explain why the mobility element of PIP doesn’t qualify someone for LCWRA Universal Credit? In other words, someone who literally can’t walk (at all) isn’t, in your eyes, disabled enough to get the disability/health element of Universal Credit.

    On what planet does that make any sense?

    But that’s the point, isn’t it? It’s not meant to make sense, it’s just meant to save money. This isn’t about reform, or trying to get people into work, it’s about using vulnerable disabled people as collateral damage for failed economic policies of your party and your predecessors.

    For all of your stubbornness and your lies about getting us employed, the truth is that you don’t have a clue what you’re doing, how to win over your own MPs, or even how this is going to all work in reality. Who announces PIP eligibility changes and then changes the form AFTERWARDS? I’d expect better planning from 12 year olds.

    And so you think that, despite of all this, those extra 13 weeks of PIP is going to somehow placate your back benchers? If so, you must have a very low opinion of them – either that or you believe them to be utterly spineless. Which is it?

    Either way, Liz, you’re in a very precarious situation. You have a majority that is considerably less than the amount of people on PIP in your constituency.

    You might have been an MP for fifteen years, but don’t expect to be one for twenty.

    Disabled people are going to die on your watch. Thousands of them.

    That will be your legacy. But I’m guessing you’re OK with that.

    Best wishes

    Shane.

    cc. the entirety of X, bluesky, Instagram, and any media site that wants to print the letter.

    available at: https://x.com/shanebrown74/status/1933464369402134690
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      · 6 hours ago
      @SLB @SLB  Epic. 👏👏👏 Thank you. 👍 🙏
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    · 8 hours ago
    My MP never replies to me.
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    · 8 hours ago
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/jun/13/ministers-step-up-efforts-to-quell-growing-rebellion-over-uk-welfare-bill

    Sounds like Labour higher ups may be starting to try & get Labour MPs to fall in line via blackmail (sounds like I’m being harsh - but to me that’s what threatening of the loss of whip and/or deselection basically is)

    I know that I said that scaring MPs with our voting tactics for next GE may be the disabled community’s only real option left

    But it’s horrible that’s it’s probably going to come down to which side scares these Labour MPs the most

    I think it’s important for those MPs who have stuck their necks out for the disabled so far that we make an effect over the next 3 weeks via social media and email to thank them for their support so far and make clear that that if they continue supporting and fighting for us we will repay the favour next he in helping them retain their seat as a Labour mp, a mp who deflects to a non far right party or an independent mp

    Disabled community remember cruelty but they also remember kindness
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      · 6 hours ago
      @D Yes, I think possibly trying to keep the mps on board that we already have is probably a better tactic than trying to convert new ones.  So a "thank you for your support, we're relying on you" approach would make sense.
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      · 7 hours ago
      @D It's amusing how the government is denying this according to the article, like party whips over the years haven't kept "dirt books" on MPs and have used this to blackmail and control them. 

      You're already actively kicking disabled people in the face with a huge grin on your face (in Kendall's case), you expect people to believe you're not into blackmail on the side too?
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    · 9 hours ago
    I Don't listen to everything seen in the news  its not all true they just make it look interesting  to get  more views  latest from  guardian labour are trying to stop rebellion someone in government thinks some rebels won't vote against it they got bought off by concessions but another MP has said there's no MP that won't vote against it someone in government  would say things to make it look like they in control doubt they will reshuffle everyone that's been said to they worried MPs will quit  and they can't force MPs to vote for cuts the other thing said was government denied that MPs would be punished for voting against cuts   .
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      · 8 hours ago
      @Lill Labour MP's will be punished by the electorate come voting time. A lot of MP's are going to end up losing their seat.
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    · 10 hours ago

    "Government figures say that concessions by Kendall this week have won over some would-be rebels. The Guardian reported Kendall would put “non-negotiable” protections for the most vulnerable benefits recipients in the legislation."

    If that's true they're either idiiots or more likely were never likely to rebel. More likely is that this is more propaganda from the whips. The line from yesterday's article about the number of rebels falling has been repeated here, though again, you don't offer concessions, even meaningless ones, if you think things are going your way. One MP quoted in a BBC article said that the whips were pushing very hard but it's not working. 

    This bit sounds nearer the mark:

    "But some MPs are unmoved by the changes. One senior Labour backbencher said: “This so-called olive branch is completely meaningless and won’t have persuaded a single Labour MP, many of whom are really concerned for the impact on disabled people in their constituencies. These reforms were rushed through with no proper impact assessment and the government has to go back to the drawing board.”

    If the whips are pushing hard that just makes it more important to lobby Labour MPs to vote the right way. 
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      · 8 hours ago
      @tintack Exactly.  Propaganda. If an MP is well enough versed on the issues to want to vote against, they are also not going to be persuaded by this measly effort. I'm not saying it won't go through, because it probably will, but it won't be because of three months extra PIP.
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    · 10 hours ago
    With a working majority of what 165. 
    I think if 50 voted against a further 66 would need to abstain to defat the government. 
    Sadly I cannot see the rebels having even those numbers. And I expect some who object will be paired up with Tory MPs and both not bother turning up to vote. So the Tory MP can say they did not oppose welfare cuts and the Labour MP that they did not support the welfare cuts. 
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    · 10 hours ago
    We'll see a cranking up of reports on this in the Guardian - possibly from Sunday. 
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    · 10 hours ago
    Just got a feeling that this vote isn't going to go through. 
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    · 11 hours ago
    In response to the comments below about the green paper and the new pip 4 point and new uc health element lcwra we would be expected to attend work focused interviews with a work coach sounds easy but they are a real pain I’m having them now on uc lcw the work coach doesn’t listen have a clue and just talks over me spouting out ridiculous ideas followed by threats 
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      · 8 hours ago
      @Cecelia @Cecelia you are threatened with a long list of sanctions even on lcw now if you refuse to do anything the work
      coach asks you to do such as voluntary work cv part time job search courses it’s totally different to the esa work activity group that was more in the middle with little hassle every few months only way out of it is to get lcwra 
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      · 9 hours ago
      @James h Are you threatened with sanctions if your work search  is not upto scratch.
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      · 10 hours ago
      @James h
      We don't yet know if the change to LCWRA criteria will apply to existing claimants who get LCWRA under the current criteria. If they do then there will be a huge number of people applying to get the new UC premium for those who can't work. Bear in mind that there will be a lot of peope who will have evidence from consultant-level specialists stating that their condition is not expected to improve, so however the government tries to stitch it up, there is a very decent chance that the new premium effectively becomes the ESA Support Group under another name. 

      It's very reminiscent of what happened when the WCA was first introduced: it later emerged that Atos' contract stipulated that only a very small proportion of claimants should be placed in the Support Group - about 11% if I remember rightly. But that didn't last, because people had medical evidence showing that they met the Support Group criteria. 
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      · 10 hours ago
      @James h As my reply was cut off by auto editing.
      I was going on to say that for those able to attend and cope with them if they are like those that were and possibly still required for those receiving carer's allowance. Once every 3 years with no obligation to take up any of the help offered or advice given. Then I found them pointless but harmless. 
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      · 10 hours ago
      @James h
      For some on UC health any contact with the DWP is going to be detrimental to their health or pointless or impossible or run the risk of people being sanctioned for non-compliance. So I think it is a bad idea in principle. In my opinion if they are going to do it they should just make it completely voluntary. 

      Many many years ago I think they either had a work focused interview requirement for people on high levels of disability benefits or were trialling it,  as I know someone who was told to attend one. I phoned the jobcentre up and got them to void it as not appropriate/pointless.

      As for how onerous work focused interviews are for people able to attend and cope with them. 
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    · 11 hours ago
    And mean while back in Mauritius, they have wiped out their national debt, and also the natives there do not have to pay taxes ( I think its for a year).  

    Which is all down to Starmer & Co, and their luncacy ideology, of giving away our sovereignty, our money (50 billion quid, that's for renting back our own island over xamounts of years). Insane right !!!

    And all labour is concerned about is stitching up not only the British taxpayer, but more importantly the disabled people in our society.

    Labour keep banging on about this 20 billion blackhole the Tories left them with.

    But if you do the maths, labour has out done the Tories by a mile.  And labours tenure is only 10 months in. (4 + years to go) 

    Cutting the welfare state ie PIP is a political choice not a necessity at all.






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    · 12 hours ago
    We may need too polish up our Cvs
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      · 9 hours ago
      @Cecelia I wouldn't say that quite yet, Bert. I like to remain optimistic that we can beat these reforms. 
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    · 12 hours ago
    My Perspective on Liz Kendall & Her Welfare Agenda

    1. Tactical over transformative
    Kendall’s recent concessions—13 weeks of extra PIP, a reiteration of the “right to work” protections and promised safeguards for the severely disabled—appear less as meaningful reform and more as tactical manoeuvres. These moves are aimed at preventing a Labour rebellion by appeasing backbenchers, rather than delivering genuine improvements for disabled people.

    2. Cost-cutting under the guise of compassion
    While she frames the reforms as “decisive action” aligned with Labour values, the core aim remains stripping £5 billion in disability-related support by tightening PIP eligibility and Universal Credit health elements.

    3. Political theatre, not policy
    Analysts caution that these concessions were already signalled in earlier Green Paper proposals, making them little more than reframed whispers of old promises. The goal isn’t to change outcomes; it’s to manage dissent.

    4. Flawed narrative of work incentives

    Kendall insists the reforms are necessary so public funds support those most in need and to promote work for others. However, experts argue that slashing benefits won’t drive employment; it will deepen destitution and mental health crises.

    5. Leadership questions
    Though portrayed as decisive, Kendall is steering a policy steeped in austerity-style cuts, not transformative welfare reform. Her leadership is defined by backbench appeasement and cost-saving rather than bold, principled advocacy for social justice.

    In Summary

    Liz Kendall is presenting a series of surface-level concessions to stave off internal resistance. But behind this veneer lies a substantial rollback of disability support. This is not shaping a fairer welfare state—it is shoring up party discipline while sacrificing the vulnerable.

    If she were a true advocate for disabled people, she would have seized this moment to protect, not penalise, those who rely on welfare. Instead, the signal is: cost-saving first, compassion second.
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      · 8 hours ago
      @Disy
      Compassion second?

      No compassion at all more like!
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    · 12 hours ago
    Found this some where it's from 4days ago. 

    over 100 Labour MPs have said they are not prepared to back the government’s benefits cuts—the number of unhappy MPs could be as high as 170. This could be the biggest rebellion yet and a possible defeat for the government. 
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      · 7 hours ago
      @Lill 100 OR 170,

      They wont want to resign or to lose the whip, many will take the cowards out when they vote, and that will be to ABSTAIN.

      If your totally against these cuts, then the MP's against should grow a pair and prove to the public that they have a moral compass.
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    · 12 hours ago
    Rare BBC reporting on this, looking less favourable for the grim reaper Labour Leadership:

    When asked what he made of the protections Kendall had added to the bill, Duncan-Jordan said: "Poverty delayed is still poverty."
    Another discontented Labour MP, Ian Byrne, said: "After 14 weeks do the disabled and sick affected miraculously end the need for the vital assistance being taken away? An absolute nonsense."
    And Labour MP Rachael Maskell said Kendall had "just restated the proposals in Pathways to Work with a three-month transition before people lose their support".
    She added: "It will therefore not change the material facts nor my intention to vote against."
    Another Labour MP said the added protections will not stop dozens of his colleagues from opposing the bill.
    "The whips are pushing very hard with MPs but it's not working," the Labour MP said.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c80k8v4043vo



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      · 10 hours ago
      @Gingin You mark my words she’s after promtion . Saw this happening time and time again getting in the way of any customer service or decent fair leadership of staff. In the old days people had it cushty working in civil service. Then they went the total opposite way to beating staff mentally with a huge stick. But this woman has a mission on her mind. It’s to make us comply. Now we know that is not possible for most of us forced into something that will damage us. No matter how far they get we keep fighting because even if they get stuff through it doesn’t mean they are going to be able to use it or it won’t be subject to change. Expect anything including u turns down the line when the pressures off and they don’t look like it’s a climb down. Hopefully not too many of us have perished by then. 
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      · 10 hours ago
      @tintack That's rather insulting to mince!
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      · 11 hours ago
      @Gingin Alex Ballinger, who described the cuts as being for those who "just need a bit of encouragement", welcomes Kendall's "concessions". Of course he does. He's either a psychopath or as thick as mince.
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    · 13 hours ago
    I think my post didn't get posted.  Here's a bbc article in which several potential rebels say the tweaks and concessions won't alter their opinions

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    · 13 hours ago
    This just gets even more and more crazy 🤪 by the day.
    So delay ,Destitution, abject poverty,eviction and even suicide for 13 weeks.
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    · 13 hours ago
    So people will have time to plan their own funerals?
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      · 11 hours ago
      @Aw @Aw, the labour cabinet would have time to plan the end of their careers, if they had the wit to plan anything.
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    · 14 hours ago
    How about if on LCWRA due to severe urinal incontinence 

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